[silber]

I'm pretty new to digital art and
I haven't found a good color technique yet
so I�'m still trying



although I like that one I'll probably not finish it
because I'm tired of it

I've used the paintbrush and set it on multiply
can somnebody give me some hints(tips) on this technique ?

thx


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[This message has been edited by silber (edited October 27, 2000).]

[Matt Elder]

The image looks really nice and interesting and has a unique style. It is interesting that you have the brush set to multiply, never really tried this. I would suggest the following:

1) Lay down flat colours
2) Use a paint brush with a hard edge, set to 50% and lay down over the flat colours
3) Use dodge and burn to get gradients/tones inbetween the colours you've laid down and it will make it a bit smoother. Also use this to create shadows and highlights.
4) Use the paint brush set to 20%, with a hard edge brush and go back and refine colour and detail.
5) Set the brush to overlay to create any final really light areas/highlights.

This is really barebones but keep practicing, experimenting to find what suits your style but allow time. I'm still quite slow and it takes me about 20 hours to get a 'good' painting.

hope this was of help.

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[Rinaldo]

I would pretty much agree with what matt said...exept for the dodge and burn. stay away from that tool! it's bad practice and IMHO the results are rather lackluster most of the time.

I think the only real way to lean how to use colour is to....well learn how to use it. If you use a particular tool to give you your colours (like a blending mode such as multiply) then you have no control. The computer is making the decisions for you.

Value is far more important than colour most of the time, and is usuialy the main reason things don't look right. there is a lot ot colour theory but by knowing the very base consepts of a colour wheel one is usuialy able to get by. if the values are off though, the colour is going to be pretty much irrelevant. (As I think a lot of people "in the know" have said before)


(matt- I'm not trying to cast your comments into doubt, but dodge and burn (even tho they have their uses) are IMO a bad way to learn)

[Tinusch]

Yeah, dodge and burn won't teach you anything about color. Plus, most of the time, pics get a "dodge-and-burned" look to them, where it just doesn't look believable at all. Using your own colors (paintbrush, airbrush) are definitely a better alternative.

[Sempere]

I agree with everyone who has posted here.

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In my case, when I use multiply mode I use it in a single layer with the original picture, I scan the drawing, and with a 20/30% hard edge brush I start to put a very transparent color and kepp on painting over it until it�s finished...

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About the burn and dodge Question I have my own opinion...

Both Rinaldo and Tinusch have all the reason about that these tools lacks of teaching you the teory of color...

And that most of times the results are really awful... (You will be really messed if you try to use them with a picture or color which shouldn�t have that kind of tool, you need to know when and where...)

But I don�t think every-one should avoid them.

I�m just a novice in these fields, and I�m working hard for very short time (before that I only did some illustrations).

But I love try and explore every way a picture can be colored and finished, and burn and dodge are not an exception for me. I think that if them are used in a good way you can reach to some interesting results.

In fact I did my superhero for this forum almost using only these tools (low-opacity brush, some curves adjustements and an almost abusive use of the burn and dodge tool).

It may lack the artistic strenght of many works (awesome works) posted in this forum, but it�s an interesting picture, a picture that cath your eye...

[You can find it here, and please, drop me any comments... ]
http://www.sijun.com/dhabih/ubb/Forum2/HTML/005942.html

A thing keep on being true...

... I must keep on working with my color learning procces. And, for that, as these guys said, using pure colors and working hard is the real way.

Despite this I�m sure I will keep on making some weird-looking-with-rare-effects-and-"prohibited"-tools-pictures.

See ya around !

[Edit: Uploaded image link]

[This message has been edited by Sempere (edited October 28, 2000).]

[silber]

thx to all commented
technique which was mentioned I will use in my next pic
except the dodge and burn methode

--->like already been said I have to learn the very basics first


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[aNoah]

EXCUSE ME!

The reason we don't like to use dodge and burne is?! It can and SHOULD be used... but not overused. It is an invaluable tool. If you are going for a real paints effect, I'd use it as a final touch.

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