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Author   Topic : "Painting over photos - but not in the way you think"
jfrancis
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:30 am     Reply with quote
I'm trying to do some concept art that combines a photo with some painted modifications. It's for a job, or I'd post it. I normally do straight 3D, so the painting is new for me.

The problem I'm having is in the marriage of styles - painted and photographic - they don't look good together.

Should I

1) overpaint the photo so that it looks at home next to the painted additions?

2) work harder at making the painted stuff look photographic? (it's the wiggly, hand drawn edges that I dislike the most - not the colors or values. Should I use the pen tool as a frisket to sharpen up edges? What about matching grain and subtle high frequency textures?)

3) Don't sweat it - it's just concept art - the client will understand?
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balistic
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:46 am     Reply with quote
It can be done, it's just tedious. You can use a slightly blurred noise to replicate film grain. I've even gone so far as to match JPG compression artifacts, by exporting painted elements as JPGs and then bringing them back into the project file.

Use layers, and lock transparency when you don't want to screw up the edges of your painted parts.

I really want to come up with a good hoax that I can pull off by working painted elements (aliens? bigfoot?) into a photo . . . something that would hold up even if another digital artist was examining it pixel by pixel . . . I'm pretty sure I could do it, but like I said . . . tedious.
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Jin
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:47 am     Reply with quote
Use Painter.

Open the photo and make a Clone, then use a single Cloners variant or another brush variant set to Clone Colors and paint the photo part so it visually blends with the painted part.

It'd be better if you had the painted part on a Layer, so you wouldn't mess that up while clone painting the photo part.

Better yet, since your Photoshop painting probably won't match the Painter painting since the brush used would be different, do it all in Painter. using that clone painting technique.

Painter offers such a huge variety of brush variants, most of which can be used as Cloners, you'll be able to get just about any painting effect you want.

It's not tedius at all. In fact it's fun and you can do a few versions then choose the one you like best.



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