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chrisk82
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 1999 7:48 pm     Reply with quote
Everyone keeps saying people need to render this and render that on 2d pictures. You cannot render anything on a 2d picture. Rendering only applies to 3d work formed in 3d programs such as Maya, Ray Dream, and others. So, I hope this helps all of you out. This has really been bugging me, I get bugged very easy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 1999 8:05 pm     Reply with quote
Accually, you are completely wrong. I don't even know why you would post something so stupid, because everyone else on this board knows you are wrong also.

Here is the definition from my 1999 Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

render: to reproduce or represent by artistic or verbal means.

Now, if you don't know what it means when somebody says "you need to render the picture a bit more", may god help you. Go and pick up some books and read, and I sure hope you are an amatuer.

Think before you post next time, and maybe even research.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 1999 8:46 pm     Reply with quote
the word render has alot of meanings..

If your coloring a b/w 2d image your rendering (reproducing) it..

same as a 3d image. from wireframe rendered (reproduced) to textures, colors and lighting


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 1999 8:48 pm     Reply with quote
2D rendering means to shade add highlights, textures... whatever. Not neccessarily 3D. When there was no such thing as 3D. We would refer to retouching and adding details blah blah blah as rendering. So... who cares!!! =D
It's just R-E-N-D-E-R
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 1999 8:59 pm     Reply with quote
I chopped off his hands with an axe, rendering him defenseless...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 1999 10:03 pm     Reply with quote
hey jerrid...

what is your problem man?

don't be such an asshole on christmas !

JEEEEEEZ!
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Oscar Alexander
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 1999 3:09 am     Reply with quote
"Stupid is as stupid does" --Forrest Gump
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 1999 10:09 am     Reply with quote
It's also that plaster they use to cover brick work


A lot of folk do think that computer talk is the origin of words. But it's the other way around.
the origins of 3d graphics come from the maths of technical drawing and drafting (to a degree). Is it any wonder that when lighting & shading a scene in the computer they use the same term as graphic artists.
I'm sure most here know this stuff well; like burning and dodgeing being photolab techniques, layers and masks being graphic design production tricks etc etc.
but it's still amazing how folk miss this stuff a lot of the time
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 1999 8:22 pm     Reply with quote
Okay, maybe I was a bit off. I never heard rendering refered to 2d work. Sometimes I do jump to conclusions.

I edited this post from some nasty stuff. you don't want to see it.

[This message has been edited by Chrisk82 (edited December 25, 1999).]
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 1999 8:26 pm     Reply with quote
LOL!! I don't see how you can blame any of this on us at ALL. You are the one that posted the damn message to begin with.

Grow up.

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chrisk82
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 1999 8:30 pm     Reply with quote
I see Jerrid caught the original post.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 1999 8:42 am     Reply with quote
hehe
c'mon, clue us in
don't hold back!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 1999 3:19 am     Reply with quote
Dudez, Crisk was referring to "render" as the menu option in all 3d programs. (if you know anything about 3d), as PhotoShop, or any 2d program for that matter, doesn't have one. In PS, you just take brush strokes all the way to the end of your piece. In 3d, you put together all the objects, the light values, the textures, camera view, and click "render." (Which may sometime take a godawful overnight if your system doesn't have a 3d card. Yuck!)

Sooo... Don't call the boy stupid, mmmkay??
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Oscar Alexander
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 1999 3:35 am     Reply with quote
I don't think any of us want to go over this again, but Chrisk stated:

"You cannot render anything on a 2d picture. Rendering only applies to 3d work formed in 3d programs..."

Perhaps this may not sound stupid to you, but I think it's pretty ignorant...
Anyway, I hope Chrisk now knows the correct definition of "rendering"

As for you Shrimpish, open Photoshop, click the "Filter" pulldown and behold!! A RENDER option!

[This message has been edited by Oscar Alexander (edited December 27, 1999).]
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 1999 5:59 am     Reply with quote
hahha Oscar! Good call

Also, 3dcards have NOTHING to do with render times in 3D. It's based on pure CPU/RAM power.
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chrisk82
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 1999 8:37 am     Reply with quote
Excuse me, but I thought rendering was only applied to a picture when the computer took over to draw something. I didn't think 'rendering' was something that came from a human. I just thought about this so my first post isn't really what I was thinking. Also, I wasn't thinking about using rendering in talk - like Jerrid posted out, I believe.

Sorry for not every god damn thing in the world.
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