[hunch]

iv been lookin around here and other painting sites and iv realised tha paintings never have outlines (except cartoons). when i tried without an outlite i got some weird blobs of paint without volume. I tried to coulour an outline and then take it off (layers) but that didnt get a good result.
So i was wondering, is it how u sketch the initial piece, or how u color it.
last thing, this also goes for traditional painting. When i do sketch and start to paint over it i forget where all the features where, the creases etc. in digital du guys use low opacity brushes so u can c the outline? and is that posible with real brushes (traditional).
thx alot for any replies
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[V Shane]

Well I'll dive into this pretty quick, its just what I do, everyone I know has a different approach.
Photohsop:
1. Sketched finished, flatten. Turn to Greyscale.
2. seperate grey layers ala comic book style, turn into sepia duotone.
3. background is made a lighter sepia, layers are kepr seperated. *note I work in oil like glazes hence the sepia.
4. convert to RGB for Painter
5. the sketch layer is painted under, and is also 50% tranparent.
6. when all the main color definition is in (when about 60% of painting is done), I leave the sketch layer at 50% and merge it with the paint layer, from that point I blend into it maintaining the crispness of the original sketch and enhancing its depth with lights/darks etc...

I work with with both programs fluently, as most here probably do.
Hope that gleans some insight!

Shane
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[hunch]

yea thanks alot
anyone else got tips?
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[Gothic Gerbil]

This is just how I work, and keep in mind I paint traditionally. I draw up a sketch, with as much refinement as I care to do, then I resketch it to size on my panel. Then I'll just start tossing the paint on, usually fairly transparent, and just build it up over time that way til I have the proper values that I want more or less, then I'll worry about getting the proper colours that I want. If you work thinly you can still see the sketch through there, but even if you opaque out the sketch before you were able to put in any details, you'll still have your handy original sketch to look at to tell what goes where. Just remember that a sketch is just a guide. It is the paint that they will be looking at. You could even skip the sketch on the panel phase and still come out with the same painting, as you will still have your original sketch to reference. Some people even find it easier to work with just the straight paint. Any way you work at it, it just comes more easily if you do work at it.
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