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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 1:41 am     Reply with quote
Hi everyone! I miss not posting here at Sijun. Work has got me tied up for awhile. I'm excited to report that I have switched from traditional hand painted illustration to digital now. I am amazed at what a time saver it is compared to painting on board with Cel-Vinyl. It's a bit scary but my clients seem to be pleased with the results. I'm using Photoshop 6. Anyone out there know the difference between Painter and Photoshop? Is one superior to the other or equal? I would like to know your opinions. This is something quick I did as an experiment in textures. Can anyone come up with a story behind this character? Who is he? Have some fun and give him a name.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 2:51 am     Reply with quote
pretty cool
I like the variety of textured areas combined with simple strokes and flat areas much!!
name..huh...?....hmmm grogi ! hey you asked for it.
For me he seems like a headhunter.

Is this a scaned canvase on which you painted on?

[ January 29, 2002: Message edited by: silber ]
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 2:56 am     Reply with quote
Painter was created to emulate physical media digitally, and all the tools are designed in a way to facilitate that. Things like setting the paper / canvas / wall texture that you're painting or drawing on, to how wet the canvas or your media is, etc. Painter is also a lot better at drawing smooth curves when painting quick strokes. Other features include random variations of a selected color, splattering, more realistic fading of paint brush strokes, etc.

Photoshop tends to be better with solid color, and to my knowledge the only "on the fly" natural media emulation it does is wet edges when using the paint brush tool. People also tend to prefer Photoshop's interface over Painter as it's more direct. Painter can sometimes feel like you're digging through a large box of unorganized tools trying to find the one you want to use, though I've only used Painter Classic so I can't directly comment on the newer revisions of the program.

If all you want is a tool that'll help you create images, especially photorealistic or cartoon / comic styles, photoshop is a good choice. If you're looking to create images that specifically look like they're done with natural media, switch to Painter.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 3:38 am     Reply with quote
awesome image.. the only thing bothering me is that i can't tell whether that thing sticking from his back is a part of the background or something that he's carrying..

about painter vs photoshop- the biggest problem photoshop has, in my opinion, is its inability to create smooth strokes. it tends to break your brushstrokes when you place them quickly. painter doesn't have this problem.
painter has a cluttered interface, and is quite awkward to work with at first, but i think it's worth giving a shot.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:14 am     Reply with quote
"Vice commissioner, Glavinnus Mar is back on planet. One of the security cams in the Veldt caught this shot of him near a transport node. If he makes it out into the population, it could play havok with our plans."

I prefer Painter (using version 6 and understand 7 is much better, go figure). I just wish I could get the standard PS low opacity brushes in Painter every so often. I think it really depends what you get used to at the get-go. Nice image, good luck with the transition.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 10:58 am     Reply with quote
Personally in my expereince if I hade only one digital program to use I would use COREL PHOTO PAINT which has a lot of the qualities of both painter and photoshop. I am used to photoshop so I use it but painter is so much better for doing a variety of work. Craig Mullins has masterd that wet edge look but it takes a long time . Painter is so good for low opacity glazing it gives really nice results when you learn how to use the interface . I have seen 2 people that have really taken the time to master painter and they both produce superior quality illustrative painting and I actually prefere painters results from people who know how to use it.

Painter 1

Painter 2

painter 3

painter 4
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SameOldShit
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 11:40 am     Reply with quote
Great work Pro!

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if I hade only one digital program to use I would use COREL PHOTO PAINT


The Magic Pen?! I thought you were talking shit but then I looked at you're work?!!!! They kick ass? I have always been under the impression that Corel SUCKS. Photoshop is the industry standard and Paint is just plain cool? I am surprised to see someone with your level of skill using a Corell product. I guess I will check out Corel Photo Paint...but if it is that good how come (almost) nobody uses it? Just remember to never save finish files as CDR's because nothing can open them...I have done a lot of production work and nothing is more annyoning than getting a file saved in a Corel only format...Keep up the good work!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 12:38 am     Reply with quote
Nice stuff Greg-glad to see you're experimenting with textures in your digi art. The colors are really nice as always. With Painter and PS, I think it's good to use both. Painter has great texturing tools(gotta get those custom papers/canvases though), and glazing like Bilbo said. PS has a nice fast interface for putting down a lot of paint, and for doing hard edge or really smooth blending. Painter7 is certainly worth trying out, I'm sure you'd have fun with it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 12:50 am     Reply with quote
"They used to call him the Dog-Man, because of his weird physical anomalies. Ages of psychological torment and frustration made him bitter, until he finally abandoned the society that once abandoned him.
Now he prowls the badlands, where he finds a sad pleasure in terrorizing unknowing bypassers. Fitted in macabre armour he wages a lonesome war against all "regulars" who tresspasses his land......"

Or something

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