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Shadow-X- member
Member # Joined: 29 Oct 1999 Posts: 259 Location: Formerly Ontario,Canada, Now Vancouver, B.C, CANADA, where people hate the Toronto Maple Leafs
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 2:41 pm |
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I really hate when I am just doodling with a pencil, and I end up with a really amazing picture. But then you try to spice it up by adding colour, or inking it by going over it with a blue pen or a black one. But when you have finished "enhancing" the picture, it ends up looking like crud. I really hate when I ruin my own picture by tryng to make it better. Arg! |
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Rat member
Member # Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 851 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 3:25 pm |
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I know how you feel. God, that's annoying! |
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tyron member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2000 Posts: 442 Location: Sweden, Stockholm
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 3:38 pm |
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try to find out what mistakes you made when you inked or colored it and then don't make those mistakes anymore. that's the way to progress. don't be afraid of making mistakes, it's the best way to learn. |
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-HoodZ- member
Member # Joined: 28 Apr 2000 Posts: 905 Location: Jersey City, NJ, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 3:42 pm |
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hmmm i notice that some of my best works are doodles during a lecture class...then when you get home to try and draw....nothing......i really hate that |
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Dr. Bang member
Member # Joined: 04 Dec 2001 Posts: 1425 Location: DENHAAG, HOLLAND
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 4:26 pm |
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its because you dont think about what you're doing. I've learned that the more you think while doing something, it'll turn out crappy. |
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[Shizo] member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 4:33 pm |
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art is shit |
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Dr. Bang member
Member # Joined: 04 Dec 2001 Posts: 1425 Location: DENHAAG, HOLLAND
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 4:34 pm |
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I LOVE SHIT! Thats why there's a forum dedicated to eating them! Check out below! |
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Steven Stahlberg member
Member # Joined: 27 Oct 2000 Posts: 711 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 9:53 pm |
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I've noticed this too, mostly when I do thumbnail sketches with a technical pen on normal copy paper then scan them and enlarge them. Suddenly my tiny scribble looks so much cooler... sweeping, confident, heavily textured marks... Then I try to do something with it, and it just goes downhill. |
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Norling member
Member # Joined: 24 Oct 2001 Posts: 81 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 4:25 am |
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I don't think i have theese problems. Anytime i design something, it starts out with a rough idea. I sketch it down, but i need to make a page of thumbnails before i find the right shapes. I can then enlarge and redraw it without much problems... |
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[666]Flat member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: FRANKFURT, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 8:47 am |
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I dunno what you are talking about, Sir |
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antx member
Member # Joined: 21 Jan 2002 Posts: 320 Location: Berlin, Germany "OLD EUROPE"
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 11:19 am |
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Yes, that happens to me as well.
Shadow-X-: Maybe, when you like a doodle and want to spice it up, scan it and experiment with it digitally, before you touch the real thing. That way you get a clue of what will work and what not and you can always go back to the original doodle.
Dr. Bang: I also think that this is at least one of the reasons. Somtimes I do something and in the moment I realize that I like it, I can�t remember how I did it cos my mind was somewhere completely else. And when I focus on my work, I sometimes just don�t get anywhere with it. |
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apocalypse newt member
Member # Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 85 Location: ireland
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:52 pm |
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art is always great contary to your attempts at controlling it not because of them |
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Briareos member
Member # Joined: 24 May 2001 Posts: 392 Location: CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2002 10:12 pm |
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I do this alot too. I always think if its good at this stage, think of how good it will be when I finish it. Which is, sadly, not always the case. In fact, my favorite art is usually quick conceptual art, where the artist doesnt have time, or doesnt even think about the complete thing, but just a snapshot the feeling and vision he/she had in their mind. This happens in figure drawing ALOT. Its the most inspiring, because I think the true talent shines through.. So maybe next time, just stop? You never know. |
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Novacaptain member
Member # Joined: 09 Jan 2001 Posts: 906 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 9:42 am |
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Quick sketches are often used simply to 'loosen up' the student and not as a means of penetrating study. Often students do them well and are quite surpised at the results, which are far beyond any knowledge they have. The reason is that by working quickly they accidentally find the gesture. The gesture is a feeler which reaches out and guides them to knowledge. |
-Introduction to gesture drawing - The Natural Way to Draw - Nicolaides
Maybe this is what it's all about  |
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Sedone member
Member # Joined: 11 May 2000 Posts: 455 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 1:13 pm |
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I run into this problem, too. It's especially common when I'm painting. I've often seen sketches that look terrific lose their charm when the artist paints them.
Something that helps me is to identify the shapes I like in the loose sketch, and really pay attention to them when I start rendering. No matter how detailed a picture is, when you squint all you see are the big and little shapes that make up the picture. It's all about them shapes (sort of). |
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travis travis member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2001 Posts: 437 Location: CT, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 8:44 pm |
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me too. anything evocative I've ever been able to produce has come out of the split second magic of a doodle jam session. now if I was disciplined and would apply myself to the technical side I would then be able to produce works instead of doodles. ah well, not disciplined yet.  |
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Rat member
Member # Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 851 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 9:09 pm |
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The best drawing I've ever really done was while I was sitting bored in science. It was of a window. Just goes to show how bored I was.
*muttering* I will NOT touch it! I WILL not touch it! |
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