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Cos
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2001 6:46 pm     Reply with quote
went for a bit of a different style then I usually would, c&c welcome.



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JohnC
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2001 6:57 pm     Reply with quote
Wow, I really dig this alot! Great colors and detail. Reminds me of Lobo.

Can I ask how you did it? Do you sketch a drawing first scan it and paint it?

I am still trying to figure out how to paint good in painter. Did you use painter?

Have anymore cool paintings like this?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2001 6:59 pm     Reply with quote
BRO!!

Got the feeling down in this one(fitting title)!. The alien freak is posing perfectly and even without a view of the mouth it clearly can be seen that its open in fear.
The scene moments before a head splattering finally. Classy shit my pommy friend!.

The dude rocks aswell, looks like his muscles are about to burst, they're so friggen taught.
Dig your simplistic whacked out bg compositions too.

EDIT - how'd ya do that bottom bit...it looks like dye spilt on paper?.
(stop fucken wit tnbs man, it ain't worken cause you keep uploadn all the time!!)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:25 am     Reply with quote
Man this is really really good. Fantastic color choices.
Only critic from my side would be that the leg pushing the left guy seems to be an annoying break in the direction of the composition lines. That was an awful sentence, but you get what I mean.

Still, great work.
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Cos
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:26 am     Reply with quote
JohnC - Thanks man, Yeah I was a huge lobo fan back in the day, love all of bisleys work. This was probably a little inspired by the biz actually, and j mueller as well I think, his work is damn cool too.

This was sketched and done in photoshop, I put together some steps of its development, and another quick tut on how I paint, hope you find it helpful.





Don't have a webpage online right now, but I have a gallery at epilogue

cos.epilogue.net


Lukias - Thanks dude, you picked up the head splat scene! heh, exactly what I was going for with this, kinda like a quake meets terminator feel.

Nah the alien is meant to be mouthless.. The spray at the bottom is just low pressure airbrush set to dissolve and a touch of blur. Probably try some more textury and experimental painting.

and if tbns can't handle my little uploads they deserved getting killed! Don't worry, geocities soon dead too heh.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:32 am     Reply with quote
horstenpeter - thanks alot man, glad you liked it. I agree with you about the leg. Something about theat pose just looked off, but decided to leave it in the end.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:55 am     Reply with quote
Great colours, lovely texture, everything everyone else has said..

The one thing that erks me is a lil hard to explain, especially as I'm pretty sure it's either my mis-reading of it, or failure to accept something a lil different.. but I'll try.

The 'alien freak' seems to be on a completely different level to the human bloke. Whilst that isn't really a problem, without depicting the floor, it confused my reading of it. I went thru a few thoughts to explain it, before I concluded they were upon different levels. For a while I thought the alien thing must've been sitting, but the fogged forms (and the fact the human still wouldn't be standing on the floor) nullified this. I then though the human could be jumping, but knew you'd have the skill to demonstrate his motion, which you haven't, so dismissed that..

As I said, prolly a problem with my interpretation, but thought I'd share it nehow.. all in all, stunning tho.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 10:21 am     Reply with quote
I really dig the guys hair.
My only issue with him is his abdomen. It's too long.

My other only issue is the creature only has a right side to it. His left just isn't there. It makes it feel kinda wierd. Maybe add like a bit of an elbow or something.

My last only issue... I can't see the last pics you just posted.

no more only issues...
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Cos
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 2:33 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for the comments =)

Evilasamo - yeah I see what you mean, the alien guy is on a lower area of ground than the main guy. Maybe holes in the ground, or coming up on a lift, could be a few things.. As the ground area wasn't in the composition, kinda gets away with it. But you do have a point.

Lazydead - The anatomy is kinda stylised/exxagerated. I do quite like the long abdomen, just a trait in my style. Any shorter I think the arm would look too long..

Yeah agree about the creature. That thick black line from his back to left bottom corner was going to be his left arm leaning for support. Which I think would of made the pose more natural looking. Thoo I got lazy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 3:44 pm     Reply with quote
Love it, proportions, style, colours, cool, the only thing that strikes me is he looks very static, whilst the alien has movement, could be how you wanted it?, like the style though! Inspiring!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:12 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for that brief explanation on your technique. I am going to try and put it to use since I am still learning to digitally paint.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:17 pm     Reply with quote
Cos, I checked out your other pics. Great stuff man. I really like your tecnique. Are you using Photoshop?

Do you use the paintbrush or airbrush?

Anyway great stuff man. Looking forward to seeing more.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2001 3:44 am     Reply with quote
Nice painting, my only crit would be the right guy's pose- seems a bit stiff.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2001 8:32 am     Reply with quote
Hey! I paint the exact same way...quit giving away trade secrets!!!

I was going to comment on the dark line but for some reason I didn't. It looks like a natural place to put the arm... even if it were just blocked in it would help.

This could be a killer comic cover.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:08 am     Reply with quote
wow very strong pic as usual, cos. recognize your style right away and i think you excel in every pic you make.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:10 am     Reply with quote
Great stuff, Cos, you're really improving =)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 11:07 am     Reply with quote
Very nice painting Cos. I like the textures and colors. One minor thing is that hasn't been mentioned I guess is that the shadows on the pumped up guy are too black and make him look little flat. I would add some subtle light and color variation in those areas to define forms better. If you don't mind here's very subtle "overpaint" to show what I mean.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 2:26 pm     Reply with quote
Psionic - Thanks alot. Yeah agree with you about the figure, the man who just won't bend his back heh. Suprised you were the first to comment on that actually. I did want to have a kinda terminatorish feel about him which maybe made it more like that.

Johnc - Thanks again man, Yea all photoshop stuff using Paintbrush. Would like to have a go at Painter sometime. If you have anymore questions or whatever just send over a mail.

Mr T - Thanks dude.

Lazy Dead - hehe thats kool, my secrets are yours for the taking. And heres how to make gold out a packet of crackers and some toilet rolls, no wait, I'ma hold onto that for myself heh. Cheers.

Sandhu - Thanks man

Enayla - Thankyou =)

Rhomb - Thanks, to be honest I couldn't tell any difference between the two, tho I have the feeling it's a difference in monitor contrast settings probably. I brought it into ps and raised the levels, I see what your'e saying about more blends. I'm not sure about where u placed them tho, seemed to be in the areas I would of left the darkest, but I see what you're getting at. Could of had more blend into the shadows.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2001 4:17 am     Reply with quote
I think what Rhomb is refering to is the shadow that goes from his shoulder, down under his pecs and down toward his waist (you know...the long part ). And it looks like he worked some on the front of the hair above the forehead.
He's added some of the red from the surrounding area and mixed it in with the shadow. Usually this represents refected light coming from the ground so it is usually painted an earthtone or warm color. It also commonly contrasts with the color or temperature of the light source.
Warm light=cool shadows... that sort of thing.
In this case it works well, helping to blend the figure in with the painting. It also adds atmosphere...

..but I'm guessing that you know all of this already...

...since you actually were doing that with the creature and that's why I thought it looked so great.
The creature's shoulder and the top/back of his head are the strongest examples of this.
The shooter's face also does this.

Seeing this, I think that your right. It's a monitor deal. But that also shows that you may need to blend them some more.

Still love it.

BTW that Crackers to gold thing is ancient news man. And it requires paper towel rolls not toilet paper rolls. They're bigger and more absorbent. LOL

[edit]-just typos-[/edit]

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2001 4:21 am     Reply with quote
reminds me of Brom's work. looks a little flat though.
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Cos
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2001 5:33 pm     Reply with quote
Rhomb - Ahh dude, I see what you mean now. I changed my settings abit and I see it. Exterior lighting hitting the shadows. Actually that's something I've noticed alot with frazettas work. I'm gonna give it a try with this and see how it goes, and keep it in mind for future stuff. Thanks for pointing it out man.

Lazy dead - and thanks for stressing the point.. don't think I would of noticed it.

and dammit dude its not paper towels! that stuff turns to feaces in a few years. Go check the treasure chest in the basement, you'll see. Just watch out for the smell! hehhh

Lihamyrsky - Brom rules man, thanks.

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