[Jucas]

For any and all with thoughts of a woman on the brain, you probably have pondered the same thing that I do now. What the hell is going on!? Gah!

Can't find a reason for why I'm posting here. I just needed a place to babble abit. Didn't feel like bringing up the issue with anyone. (so I post on a public message board, riiight...?)

I have seem to have this awful gut feeling, it feels half-way between neveriousness and anxisoiety and it won't go away.

Well, there is a plus side to my agnozing pain. My emotions are going wacky, which in turn are fueling my imagination.

I wonder if she even sees me? It's the common case of a teenage melo-drama.

Signing out,
-jonathan (the jinxed)

[Visigoth]

Walk straight up to her, and say "I couldn't help but notice, you have the most wonderful pair of boots" -- But, try and make the word "boots" sound suspiciously like "boobs" to leave just a little bit of doubt in her mind...That should get her attention

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[Chapel]

Women huh?.. screw em.

[strata]

Tell her she smells good, comment her on her shoes, listen to what she says - This is accomplished by saying: Aha and nodding at the right moment.

- Good Vibrations (or what planet are you from depending on what country you're in)

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Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

[Spitfire]

"Aroogah! Woman, come to cave!" usually works for me...



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[v1510nAry]

Just stare at her , and if she looks back and around with a angry or a smily face

u either:
1. Smile Back
2. Turn 2 seconds after shes caught u staring at her
3. do a lil hand movement which tells her to come her

(All I have never done except 1 , 2 , 3 .. Shambles )

.: | v1510nAry | :.

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[Lunatique]

Hahaha. Man, you guys are funny.

Seriously though, women are just like men. All the stereotypes you hear/see are just that--stereotypes.

I've met many women that don't have a single romantic bone in their body, yet I've met incredibly romantic and sensitive men.

I've met women that never cry at the movies, and are completely uncaring, yet I've met men that can be very emotional and understanding to others.

I've met women that have no idea how to apply makeup, or dress to flatter themselves, yet I've met men that are very stylish and fashionable.

I've met women that only wants sex, yet I've met men that only wants true love.

So, you tell me what the answer is.

We are all the same, with some minor differences. I don't see it as "men and women are different," I see it as "there are sensitive, intelligent, imaginative, and caring people, then ther are the rest I don't care to know."

[Count Zero]

I do what Spitfire does, I only enforce it with a fucking huge wooden club. Chicks dig guys with huge wooden clubs, yes indeed.
EDIT: Return of the revenge of the Retardboy's Son III

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[DirtyDigger]

all the men you've met are GAY!!



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[Bradford]

fear? no.. wait.. YEAH! it's fear. it's all about fear.

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[Jucas]

Thanks for the advice and humor. I needed to laugh a little.
So are you ready for the lowdown?

I've never had a problem asking girls out. If I liked the girl, I wouldn't hesitate to say "Wanna go catch a movie?". I'm not saying I've had a bunch of girls friends or anything of the sort, but I usually don't get nervous and I don't consider myself a shy-guy (I'm the nice guy most of the time)

BUT! Here's the deal,

I really like this girl! More than any other girl I've ever known, seen, talked to, etc. I would literally change anything about my life for her.

Problem is this, she doesn't notice me (if she does she doesn't show it). It's driving me crazy! Here's the kicker, I finally got up the courage to call her and she was asleep! No prob. Call back later... Well I muster up the courage to call again. Guess? Still asleep. So I leave my name and number with her mother... She never got the message that I called.

Now I make a choice. When do I call? Should I get to know her first? (I've only talked to her only once or twice. Would she think me wierd to talk to her at school, then ask her to go out on the weekend on the same night.

Summary- I do not fear calling her and asking her out. What I fear, is her saying no.

A man once said to me, "What would you do if you knew you'd never fail?"

thanks,
-jonathan (it confirmed I'm a 100% love sick)

[Lunatique]

*sigh*

Jucas, my dear boy. I feel your pain.

Look, dude, we need to do some serious planning here, but first, more information is required.

Now, before we go on, let me first tell you a bit about my background so you know from what perspective am I saying all this. I'm one of those guys that's been around the block too many times(I'm 28 right now), and I've been involved with more women than I can count with all of my fingers and most of my toes. I'm a bit embarrassed to say that when I was younger, I was a bit of a player. I knew I had the qualities that attracted women, and I did take advantage of it. Now that I'm older, I just want to settle down.

Anyways, on to business: 1)what kind of a girl is she(I'm assuming you are in high school here)? Is she very attractive in the conventional sense(most of the guys drool after her), or she is only attractive to you(not necessarily prom queen material, but she has that special something that just makes you crazy)?

2)From your observations, what kind of personality does she seem to have(there's no way you can realy know without talking to her in depth, but the obvious will help)? Is she quiet and introverted, or she is out going and have lots of friends? Is she popular? A loner? What kind of activities does she do in school? Band practice? School newspaper? Cheerleader?

3)Is she arrogant? Does she KNOW that you are love sick for her? Does she seem "out of your league"? Is she friendly towards you(smile, says hi, with or without you prompting it first)?

4)What kind of a guy are you? Describe yourself in the context of how people might perceive you, and how you perceive yourself. Use the criteria from the first 2 questions.

5)Do you have mutual friends? Have you got any "spies" working for you. If yes, have them find out whether she has a boyfriend, what kind of guys does she like. Ask her questions like, "what if you could date any guy from school, which ones would be on your list." Then, pick random guys and ask, "What about HIM?" (with you as one of the random names).

There. That's the first step. When you have gathered enough info, come back and we'll huddle for the second step.

Man, this brings back memories.

BTW, those guys I mentioned--none of them are gay. In fact, they are about as straight as they come(gets chicks all the time. Guess why? BECAUSE they are good-looking, sensitive, caring, romantic, intelligent, funny as hell, AND talented). The couple of gays friends I do have are nothing like that.

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[Chapel]

The worst she can do is say no. There worst you can do is never find out. Does that make sense? You are young you still have plenty of other women you haven't met that can say no to you also. That is the way I think of it.. course.. I'm twisted.

[Jucas]

Ready Lunatique?

Here's goes;
1) Personally I think she's the most attractive girl I've ever seen period. But that may be cause I'm ga ga over her. I think most would consider her good looking, but definatley not in your typical prom-queen material kind of way. (When I say typical I mean blonde, big tits, billboard/magazine girl, skinny etc)

Personally I don't go for the "norm" hottie. I look for somebody interesting looking with a great personality.

What drives me crazy about her? Her smile and her hair! Oh fine, everything!

2)Her personality seems absolutly fabulous. Really out going and friendly, funny, mostly not a shy person. She seems sorta popular, she hangs out with a large group of people.

I know she runs track, I think the 4x100 meter, from what I understand she's pretty good. She does (great) art. I know this because she's in my art class.

She's a vegetarian. (Don't know if this helps)

3) I am fairly positive she doesn't know I'm love sick with her. She is definatly not arrogant in anyway. She is always very friendly to almost all people she talks to. Actually today after the bell rang for the next class, I was getting ready to go and while she was setting up her canvas she said hi. She asked me if I had started my painting, what I was going to do etc...

4) What kind of guy am I? Hmm... Most would call me easy going and fun (I hope). I'm friendly to everyone, and I try treating everyone equal or giving them the same respect they give me. I think I'm a good conversationalist, I always have something decent to add to the topic at hand.

I don't participate in after school activities, I used to do soccer and track (shot-put and discus). But now I sculpt at a studio downtown. I also participate in life drawing classes and do a martial art called Aikido, as well as bike.

I would never ever choose the computer over real life. I'm all-most always willing to try something at least once.

5)She doesn't have a boyfriend. I know that for sure. Once, a friend of mine was showing a small group of us (maybe two or three of us. Two other girls and me) a photograph he had taken of himself and his girlfriend. It was a solluette of them hugging infront of a sunset. While we were looking at it she came up and admired it for a moment saying it was great, then she said "God, I'm lonely." And walked into the art room. Whether or not she was saying that to me is up for grabs, but she doesn't have a boyfriend and she's looking for one.

Enough outta me, I'm sure there's something that I forgot.
-jono

(This is harder than I thought)

[Kryckan]

what are you waiting fore!!! ask here out!!!

[Shaded]

Oyy buddy. What you got is a crush. Sit on this for a couple weeks. If the same feelings are still there, then call.

[DirtyDigger]

She said "God I'm lonely" and you just let her suffer??? You are one cold hearted bastard!



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[Jucas]

Here's how it's gonna go. I'm gonna call her tomorrow for a date this weekend. Is that enough of an advance notice? (Call her friday for a date on satuday?) Here's another question, Should I be extra "nice" and talkitive tomorrow? Would she think me wierd if I asked her out the same day was really nice?

Hoping and praying,
-jono

[Shaded]

hoboy.

[Ian]

Well you could always do what I do when iv'e got a major crush on some chick...nothing.

--ian

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[lostpapers]

I've never thought to find this kind of thread on an artistic forum but hey, love and art are expression of feeling.

So if I may sharesome advice, just DON'T be extra nice if it's not your habit... Be yourself ! If you're a nice guy, just be nice. Don't push it... That's the best advice I was ever given... even if I'm still alone



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[Lunatique]

This is actually a lot better than I had imagined. She is into art(common interest!), friendly(not a bitch!), single(available!), and you are already on talking terms(no shuffling your feet and going, "You don't know me, but. . ..").

Man, I have to agree with the others--WHAT are you waiting for? Some OTHER guy to make the first move?

Ok, next step.

1)Can you get a mutual friend to ask her what is her "type," and who does she find attractive in school? If not, just proceed to the next part.

Here we go:

Look, just be yourself. Just go up to her and say something similar to the following:

"Hey, how's it going?"

(Her reply.)

"Look, there's something I want to ask you, and even you say no, we're still friends, ok?"

(She asks you what it is you want to ask her.)

"I'm just going to say it straight. (Take a deep breath) I really think you are a wonderful person, with many qualities that I don't see in others(name her qualities if you want--her talent, friendliness, smile..etc). I would be really happy if you would like to spend some time hanging out. If you don't see me that way, it's ok, I mean, we are still friends. I'll be disappointed, but I just had to ask because I don't want to regret not doing something when my heart tells me I should."

(When you say all this, don't fidget, don't shuffle your feet. Look her straight in the eys, and hopefully, with a cute smile on your face.)

There. Tell me how she responds.

Oops, almost forgot. If you want to play it safe and be less conpicuous, you can always do the simple "Wanna go see a movie?" routine. It really works, and depending on if she brings an army of friends, and how she reacts towards you during your "date," you 'll know if you have a chance.

OR, here's the kind of thing I do. It doesn't work for everyone, because not everyone is as crazy as me, BUT, when it works, it WORKS. I usually do this if I suspect that person might be attracted to me too(her eyes linger a bit on me, or I catch her looking my way often).

I write a heart-felt letter professing my feeling. Sincere, honest, and sweet.

This is about the most romantic thing you can do, short of showing up with a dozen roses at school and embarrassing the hell out of her and yourself. So, if you are a brave, romantic guy, start writing!



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[Jucas]

Do you think asking her in person would be the best? She is around people quite alot so finding a moment could be dfficult. I could call her... but what do you think?

[Jucas]

... and another thing. When? What day of the week do I ask her out?

[Lunatique]

Ok, if you are brave enough to do it in person, do it any day of the week EXCEPT Friday. Why? Because chances are, people make plans for the weekend on Friday, so you want to get to her before someone else claims her for that weekend.

Time of day: any time, as long as you give yourself more than 10~15 minutes to do it. Why? You might pace back and forth for a long time before you psych yourself up enough to do it. And when you ARE ready, the recess bell might ring, and she'd be in a hurry. I say do it right after the first bell that ends a class, or during lunch. If her friends are about, just go up and say something quietly like, "Can I talk to you in private for a minute?"

Remember: smile, be confident, be sincere, and don't fidget!


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[kig]

my take on pretty much everything: it's not going to happen. period.

har har har. this goth role is silly, i think i'll be hyper-genki-brit-pop-weirdo for a while now.

[Jaysin]

Just got to throw in my two cents here. First off I know it happens, but never, ever get stuck on a girl. I'm not saying this is what you've done, but if you ask her out and she says no (which I doubt she will) move on to the next one. I did it far too many times, where I wasted a lot of time on a girl, trying to be her friend, trying to get her to like me... it's not worth it. You only end up wasting time on one girl and then three years after High school you find out all of her hot friends totally liked you, but you were to blinded by her to notice them.

Now, on to your situation. The only thing different between this girl and any other one you've asked out before is that your stuck on her. Smack! Stop it! Don't build her up as the one and only. You have to go up to her and ask her out, just like any other girl you've ever asked out before.

Bang, "Hey, would you like to go to a movie this weekend?" "Yes, great, I'll pick you up at 7:00" "No? Oh well, your loss"

Trust me, she already knows if she like you or not, she already knows if she'd be willing to go out with you or not, and there's practically nothing you can consciously do to change that fact. If she likes you, you could say anything and she'd be yours. If it's not meant to be, you could give her roses and sing her a song and she'll still think your a dork (only now you've given her good reason to think so ; ).

The decision is all hers, all you have to do is ask her, and you've done that before.... so just do it.

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[shahar2k]

jaysin, I'd have to say that there is some sound advice... especially since that is the one thing that I've never really heard coming from anyone,

everyone keeps trying to say what to do about the girl you'r currently after ignoring the fact that you have to understand you'r not her "greatest thing since sliced bread" and you have to make sure it's mutual before building up a good relaitonship.

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[Lukias]

CONFIDENCE

[tayete]

Nah! Just wait until she asks you to come out with her. If in the next two or three years she hasn�t yet, it�s a quite clear sign she did not want to go out with you.