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Alexei Samokhin · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 1:02 pm

Hello pipls.
Need advice on lightning..

anyone can help ? Am i right on my startings ?

Pro · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 3:03 pm

Hi Alexei Samokhin -

I hope you don't mind but I put this together to show how I might approach light and form and a simple way to think. You may already know this.

[ December 29, 2001: Message edited by: Pro ]

Indian_Prophet · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 4:04 pm

ahh Battle Angel Alita...good start!

I am still learning the light source thing too so am not much help but Pro is handling that.

Indian_Prophet · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 4:05 pm

oh and on that note...Pro, how come you don't school me that a way...

Mr. T · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 6:16 pm

pro, that sphere needs reflected light

Mr. T · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 6:24 pm

here's a useful tutorial by Ron Lemen

Pro · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 9:09 pm

Hey Mr. T your right. I made the change and added the reflected light. I left it out thinking it might be too confusing to think about. Sometimes it's easier to think of just light and shade.

Hit your refresh button to see the new version.

G. Pro

Alexei Samokhin · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 9:23 pm

wow ! Pro , thx alot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alexei Samokhin · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 9:25 pm

one more question ....
how to draw her eye in manga style , but with anatomy correction ?
right now the eye not good.. but this is the best what i can did :-\

Indian_Prophet · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 8:09 pm

I would keep the eyes, it fits the rest

Dr. Bang · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 9:02 pm

Hi Pro, that show is extremely informative to me. Can you explain to me more about the "4 edge rule" ? It sounds really interesting to me, i dont want to miss out something like this

Pro · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 9:55 pm

Hi Dr. Bang-

How is this.

Dr. Bang · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 10:11 pm

Ohh god Pro, thank you so much!!! Where did you learned all these thing? They're amazingly useful to me.

I have to print this out and post it up my wall now

Alexei Samokhin · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:38 am

Pro , do you have any tutorial (like 4 edges) about colors ?

Sonique128 · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 1:11 am

thanks a bunch pro.. a new rule that i did not know about. thanks!

Mr. T · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 4:32 am

another leason learned. thanks a lot, pro.

Sukhoi · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 4:53 am

Does any of you guys play aroung with Mental Ray, Brazil og Arnold?? It's a very interesting eye opener. I learned to SEE my surroundings with these. By that I mean that I constantly compared the real world (light, shadow etc,) with that of the rendered scene, and I found that I really didn't see my environment properly until then.
Sort of the same thing I learned, just in another way....Interesting.

Sukhoi

wigin · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:00 am

hey pro... NICE TUTORIAL.. extremetly HELPFULL... i was just wondering... what was the guy painted with?? digital? acrylic? gouache? oils?????

SporQ · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 1:07 pm

the firm and hard edges seem very similar to me, and to a lesser extent, the soft and lost edges seem pretty similar too.

it seems that the firm edge is a medium between the hard and soft edges. and the difference between soft and lost is that one is over one surface and the other is blending the line between surfaces respectivly.

i have no idea how right i am and if im leaving stuff out. could you explain the differences in more detail please?

wigin · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 2:00 pm

Cel-Vinyl??? hmm never seen any of that type of paint in an art store...Where would one buy some?? Actually would cel vinyl be the same as gouache??? My roommates in animation use gouache to paint on cels... Would be interesting to get more info on this Cel vinyl... if you dont mind... hehe =)... But what about all those paintings on your site that are traditional media? Is that Cel Vinyl too ?? or some are in acrylic or oils or gouache...

Sorry for the stupid questions...

thanx..

Pro · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 3:44 pm

Hi Wigin-

Cel-Vinyl is a water base paint simlar to acrylics. It covers nicely and when dry is permanent. It's made by a company called Cartoon Colour in Culver City, Ca. (310) 838-8467. I use this paint for all my color sketches and finished renderings. What you see on my website is all Cel-Vinyl.

SporQ · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 4:51 pm

cel vinyl <- hope that helps

Pro · Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 12:55 am

Hi Gang-

Glad to here all of your positive feedback. I enjoy this.

wigin- The guys head is painted in Cel-Vinyl. It's the stuff animators use or used to paint on Cel's.

Alexei Samokhin- you asked about color, but color is such a wide range subject and it differs slightly in the digital realm. If you have a more specific question I can give you my take on it.

Alexei Samokhin · Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 2:47 am

hey.

how do you think gyus , do i need something to correct ? or mb this is done (except hairs)
PS: hairs is my trouble... dont knoe what to do :-(

wigin · Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 9:50 am

The breast look fake and like balls underneath her shirt. Also her right breast (our left) is higher and or bigger then her left one ( our right). I dont like the nipples you added . they are missed placed and i dont really care much for them in this pic. Unneeded detail imo. Looks much better then the first one you posted GOOD WORK. Also i liked the OLDER cone breast before you made them like balloons..

Good work and hope you will take in consideration my crit... talk to you later

[ January 05, 2002: Message edited by: wigin ]

Alexei Samokhin · Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 10:39 am

thx for crit
is this tits better ?
(i don't want very small breast , i need mega Alita! =)

Alexei Samokhin · Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 10:40 am