[Sloth]

I got a newspaper article in my History class this morning, that talked about the impending crisis that is biochemical weapons. It said that terrorists will start using diseases such as smallpox as weapons. I highly doubt that a DISEASE can be an effective tactical weapon, seeing as how it cannot be controled by human means. Since most terrorists um .... terrorize stuff to accomplish a goal, they need to somehow control the weapons they are using, which cannot be done with something like a disease. I would really love to hear what some of you think about this

(Sorry if my grammar is f()ck3d up, it's 1:00 am, and I don;t know why im still not in bed.........

[strata]

As far as I know biological warfare has been taking place for AGES...

You don't see how it can be effected? Try dumping something in the city's watersupply or setting of a big bomb in the atmosphere... you could take out an entire city in minutes, and that makes it a pretty formidable threat.



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[Nex]

Terrorist want to terrorize and why would biochem-warfare not work for that?

If you imagine a whole city infected by ebola I think thats terror enough.

Biochemical warfare will get much more important if the US military launches their starwars defense system.

After all you just need one person to go over the border and drop a pencil sized container into the city's water supply.
Of course its more effective if you have an antidote for your own virus or if the virus has a short lifetime/ preprogrammed death.

[Spitfire]

Biochem warfare is really hard to execute well. The japanese sect that attacked a subway in the mid-90ies had tried 7 other attacks that all did not have any effect whatsoever. One of them even included driving cars that sprayed an anthrax-solution through the city. You need an insane amount of knowledge, resources and most of all luck to execute an effective biochemical attack.

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[Ivey]

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Originally posted by Sloth:
It said that terrorists will start using diseases such as smallpox as weapons. I highly doubt that a DISEASE can be an effective tactical weapon, seeing as how it cannot be controled by human means. Since most terrorists um .... terrorize stuff to accomplish a goal, they need to somehow control the weapons they are using, which cannot be done with something like a disease. I would really love to hear what some of you think about this

(Sorry if my grammar is f()ck3d up, it's 1:00 am, and I don;t know why im still not in bed.........

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Smallpox is cured by a vaccine ( sp errors?) Vaccines are small amounts of the virus that force your body to build up an immunity.. So you could very easily build up an immunity, and then use that same virus in large amounts on other people with out being affected.

I am with strata on this.. I think its been going on for a while.

There are some people who think AIDS is part of biological warfare.. now that I don't know.. and I wouldn't touch that subject... but I have heard people get very excited about that topic while ingaged in coversation.

[Count Zero]

AIDS is mother nature's way of saying "Die humans, die!"
The planet trying to cope with billions of people with a higher birth- than deathrate. Same goes for the impending "super flu" that is brewing somewhere.

[[Shizo]]

ye, one day you wake up and there is plaque spreading all around you. Then you say thanx to american gov for bombing iraq and other islamic countries (from these bombings only innocent people die and USA too scared to send in ground troops like they did with japan cause "they fight too hard, and we no like them kamikazi so we throw a nuke on them!".

rant THAT!

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[Spitfire]

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AIDS is mother nature's way of saying "Die humans, die!"

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My point exactly. Death to all life - vegans first.

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[[Shizo]]

i KISS nature, it's so nice

[Typo Dave]

Biological warfare is a really serious threat. Saddam Hussein has used biologiocal warfare to kill the minority Kurdish population in northern Iraq. Pictures of dead children killed by man-made disease are not very nice.

UN weapons inspectors in Iraq have it as part of their brief to look for and annihiliate biological weapons programmes.

Using a disease to kill people, especially innocent civilians is abhorrent.

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[[Shizo]]

Yeah and bombing same Iraq is OK because humaine americans are superior.. hey that smells like nazi idea! And pictures of clidren blown up by bombs aren't very nice either.

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[Typo Dave]

Too true.

Good thing I'm not an American.

Its pretty bad - the Iraqis kill the minority Shi'ite population in the south, kill the minority Kurdish population in the north, put their anti-aircraft guns in civilian areas in Baghdad to shoot down US and British planes enforcing the no-fly zone to stop the Iraqis killing, and then when the planes strike down the anti-aircraft guns the Iraqis show pictures of civilian casualties.

Conclusion#1: the Iraqi government are bastards for putting their guns in civilian areas just so they have news footage to show the West of dead Iraqi kids

Conclusion#2: the Iraqi government are bastards for trying to manipulate the Western media to compel the planes enforcing no-fly zones not to shoot back.



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[sacrelicious]

Sadddam also keeps what little revenue he makes on the limited oil exportation Iraq is allowed. Many Iraqis lack medical treatment or go hungry, and Saddam blames the U.N. embargo. Meanwhile, $13 billion sits at his disposal in an escrow account. It's very true that Iraqi civilians have been killed in U.S. actions. However these deaths were unintentional, as opposed to the much larger number of deaths caused by the Iraqi military against its own people under the orders of Saddam Hussein.

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[Typo Dave]

Very true. The only thing which is dubious about the entire thing is that the "no-fly zones" are no longer sanctioned by the UN. So, technically speaking, thos patrols are an invasion of sovereign airspace.

Still, I'd rather have them there showing at least token support for the oppressed minorities of Iraq, than not.

[Spitfire]

All your no fly zones are belong to us.

What a shitty excuse. Bush just wants to show the world hes not afraid to attack a helpless "enemy". Fucker.


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[Gecko]

How is the killing unintentional when even people visiting this forum know that the targets are surrounded by civilians?

Sounds like the USA doesnt care for the lives of the innocent the least bit. What bastards.


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[Typo Dave]

Don't you think that preventing the Iraqi air force from dropping canisters of anthrax on innocent Kurds and Shi'ites is "caring for the lives of innocents"?

That's what the no-fly zones are all about. Its not about an expression of sovereignty over Iraqi airspace. Its about doing the job that the Iraqi government should be doing if it were halfway responsible - protecting the lives of its civilians. Instead, they want to kill them.

If 10 or 100 people die in an air raid on Baghdad because the planes which prevent 10000 Kurds from dying miserably from fatal disease are attacked by anti-aircraft installations which the Iraqi government has set up in Baghdad in total disregard of the safety of the civilian population of Baghdad, then I'm sorry, I think its worth it.

There is no arrogance in putting the lives of pilots on the line to protect those unable to defend themselves from horrific death.

I'm mad that more countries don't contribute to enforcing the no-fly zones. Its cowardly and failing to give humanitarian support to those people who desperately need it.

I'm even more mad that George Bush didn't disregard the UN directive that the main aim of the Gulf War was to liberate Kuwait, and go on and liberate Iraq. Bush made a political decision not to back the Iraqi people who wanted freedom from Saddam. As a result, the underground movement who rose up against Saddam on the back of a promise of US intervention were slaughtered.

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[edible snowman]

Coincidentally this all ties in to a flash project I am doing for school. Its about anthrax, and it will be interactive and hosted by everyone's favorite Iraqui dictator. Although techinically they're classified as a democracy. I hope I don't get suspended....

[[Shizo]]

just dont forget to post it up before you go to school, otherwise we wount see it in, say.. 3 to 5 years

[DirtyDigger]

Romans used to catapult diseased animals into sieged fortifications. It was the ancient form of biological warfare.


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