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Weeks
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 1:08 pm     Reply with quote
Hello everybody... :-)

Just have a look :
http://wwwusers.imaginet.fr/~jmvives/

Bye
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micke
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 1:30 pm     Reply with quote
Holy smoke!This guy rocks!
Don't have time to write more...Gotta look through everything.
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Haarg2
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 1:59 pm     Reply with quote
Yeah, I think he was profiled on VFXPro a while back. Very cool.

--h2
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Bizarde
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 2:13 pm     Reply with quote
ho-la-la!!!...tres bien...wellcome 8)

~bizarde.
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burn0ut
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 3:24 pm     Reply with quote
wow he is good

have you ever worked with this guy spooge?
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dr . bang
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 3:42 pm     Reply with quote
oh boy
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Plop
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 4:50 pm     Reply with quote
Thats incredible. Someone needs to get him to come to this forum
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Jyashuwa
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 5:21 pm     Reply with quote
"By the gods of art!" this guy knows his stuff.

Thanks for the link.
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Anthony
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 5:37 pm     Reply with quote
He's certainly great - but not as good as Spooge.

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::Dino::
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 6:53 pm     Reply with quote
I second that Anthony...not as good as Spooge

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Isric
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 7:58 pm     Reply with quote
Wow, cool. Is it the artist himself that posted this or is someone showing us? If he didn't sign up, somebody tell him about us!
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Affected
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 8:02 pm     Reply with quote
Hm... City of the lost children, huh?


But wait - is this the guy responsible for the lensflare at the end of ninth gate?
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Democracy is a lie

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[This message has been edited by Affected (edited October 04, 2000).]
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dr . bang
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 8:11 pm     Reply with quote
yea I agree, Spooge is better , he at least helps out people with their art.
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ThE_JacO
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 8:54 pm     Reply with quote
mhhh i know spooge is one of the forum's heroes (he's one of my favs ever too ) but have a real look at this guy's work.. i'm of the idea that when u reach that kind of levels it's just a style matter if u r liked from a public instead of another etc.

i hope i made my point clear (i don't want to start a flamewar about "new guy" Vs. spooge , i'll just keep drooling on both )
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Flexible Elf
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 9:09 pm     Reply with quote
Yeah that guy is excellent. But like was said before... I'd have to say spooge is better. When I first saw his webpage, I wanted to break his fingers... and I don't consider myself a jealous artist by any stretch

-Flexible Elf

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sydneyshan
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 9:20 pm     Reply with quote
hahaha this forum sure has a lot of users who are keen to check out something new =) You should see this guy's site specs for the last month =) check em out here
Per day it's like 7,8,6,10,6,300 haha
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YourMum
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 11:11 pm     Reply with quote
One more guru again.. welcome!! I like his /your work. Absolutely great. I would like to know how much time it took to do that background image on the first page?

-Juha-
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 11:29 pm     Reply with quote
City of Lost Children rocked! So did Delicatessen. Too bad Alien 3 blew goats.

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And your sister, I think her name's Debra....

Joe Dillingham

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Weeks
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2000 12:25 am     Reply with quote

(excuse my poor english)
Anthony, dino, dr bang, Flexible Elf : I share with you the idea of spooge's predominance, but i don�t think it is possible or necessary to compare two style and talent as different as they are (Craig and Jean marie).

Both are great painter on natural medias and with computers.

I�ve seen Jean-marie real matte painting on glass, in a famous special effects studio in France... It�s really amazing.
Do you know the problem we have here, in France ?
We are good (i mean good enough) but we don�t know how to sell anything...
Especially with our talent.
Believe me, we have great artist here too : Never forget our heritage : classical music, painting, maths, cinema, technologie, computers, medecine, design, architecture, etc.

So give a chance to this guy, and mail him and ask for tutorials. We have a lot of things to learn.

[email protected]

Plop : I suppose that you ought to ask him to come� ?

Isric : Sorry, but i�m not Jean-marie, I would love�

Affected : Polanski�Certainly� So, why Democracy would be a Lie�?
may be not :
Just a political concept which help the humanity to regenerate itself in a ideal way of life.
I do not say it is�but�.

� La d�mocratie est un concept politique qui aide les soci�t�s humaines quelque soit leur cheminement initial, leur culture politique, � se construire autour de l�id�e que le monde appartient � chaque homme qu'il doit aspirer � devenir meilleur.
Le destin de cette humanit� faite d�hommes et de femmes libres, se d�cide � partir de la prise en compte de l�int�r�t commun de chacun. �

ThE_JacO : I�m agree with you�

Sydneyshan : thank you for the info.

Weeks

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From Paris...oh..la..la !
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spooge demon
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2000 12:44 am     Reply with quote
I have never worked with him or even heard of him. Strange...

Yes, I think if you need matte paintings, call him.

What is REALLY nice to me are the figure drawings. These are the nicest figure drawings I have seen from a matte artist.

Many digital matte artists today are really compositors. You never know what was shot, modeled, painted, etc. Less and less is painted as time goes on.

As this is going to be more true in the future, people with solid art skills will become even more rare because they have little chance to develop in a production environment. Painting something is the last resort.


I can see in a few shots the long arm of an idiot director.
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Weeks
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2000 2:08 am     Reply with quote
Spooge, I�m agree with you about the director�What a chance you have with this kinda nose� !

I have to tell you that I spent a certain time to learn and practice few things about cinema, image and show business skill�in France.

My project now is just to write and directing film� and to get learn�

So, my opinion is that your sp�cific job and your talent, very rare, will have to find new perpectives, new goal in the next future.

In the digital perspective production, the director will need more than a storyboarder, or a designer�or an architect�or a matte painter�

He �ll need to � See � the film, and quickly�during the pre-production phase�one of the most important phase.. If he have to convince the major and find the money�eternaallll�. 

The way you�ll pr�figure, simulate the light, the lenses, the global image, of a story
will be more important than to have computers to build the decorum or to draw all the matte painting of the film.

Your role will be as influence as your style, your images will be diff�rents.

You�ll become the right hand of a director�very close to the writer..you�ll become a kind of writer�. ! !

.So, you have to smile and be happy�.the future will be better than today.

For now, you have to wait patiently the time when you and Jean-marie and others will design entirely the next generation film�

(hum�. !) euhh�it is difficult for me with the language...

Weeks�

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micke
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2000 2:15 am     Reply with quote
I agree with Craig, those figure drawings are some of the coolest i've ever seen.
Pure line work.

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http://www.katode.org/noguchi/
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Sumaleth
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2000 7:49 am     Reply with quote
I've long been a big fan of this guy's work although I've never been able to decide totally whether he's a photomanip'er or a painter. Nice results reguardless, although I wish he'd replace those icons on his page with some big versions.

Sumaleth
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