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Kenzo Tanaka · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2000 12:37 pm

I've been interested in trying out Goauche and was wondering if anyone could provide any info on materials needed to get started.

Nothing major, just the basics. Brushes, paper, good color selection.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

As I recall, Dayler-Rowney have a gauche paint set for beginners. It has the primary colours plus some browns(burnt umber etc.) and comes with a brush and small pamphlet.

Tinusch · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2000 1:03 pm

How do you pronounce "gouache" anyway?

Francis · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2000 1:05 pm

gwash

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spooge demon · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2000 1:08 pm

I like Gouache

Use Windsor newton only. Maybe at first try only B+W to see if you like it to keep it cheaper? If you go with color, you can get around the metal pigments (cobalt, cadmium) there are substitutes. Just buy a warm and cool of each primary and a lighter and darker earth tone (dark yellows and reds). Only use permanent white! Zinc white is not nearly as opaque. Any black, or no black will do.

Brushes- just good watercolor brushes. Sable flats are good. Be sure to get yourself a windsor Newton series 7 #2 round ! A must have and there is no substitute.

Use double thick cold press illustration board.

If you want to rule lines, you can set a straight edge on a book and run the metal ferrule along it. Works nice. Gouache painters usually make their own out of plex.

Now the important part. USE PLENTY OF PAINT. Don�t get cheap. PUT A STROKE DOWN AND LEAVE IT ALONE. Blending and feathering and fussing around are BAD. Not only will this look ugly because it destroys your shapes but the moisture and the abrasion will bring up the paint from underneath. If you ever had that problem of the paint coming up from below, this is the secret.

It is a very flexible medium, and can be used thin to thick, or a variety of ways, but this is the best way to start with. If you have enough paint on the board, you can soften and edge or two later.

ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

oooooOOOOOOooooh... seems someone has a contract with Newton.

Rinaldo · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2000 1:41 pm

I hope you are jokeing

They are pretty much the best both for paints and brushes. I've been told what spooge just said by like everyone I've asked.
But you were probably just joking around no?

ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

I _was_ joking. I'm not really an expert in these things, so I'm instantly the butt of any joke that I make on the subject.

Anyway, I only tend to use inks (airbrush), and they are Windsor Newton... I didn't mean to offend!

sorry... sorry...

Rinaldo · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2000 1:51 pm

No reason to be sorry. I thought it was funny.

I just wanted to set the record straight.

ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

yay!

Fred Flick Stone · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2000 4:54 pm

I have really nothing more to add to what Spooge already pointed out.

Maybe a bit...crescent illustration board, cold press numbers 110, 112, 114. The tooth on these are great...

Get the Winsor Newton Series 7 for certain. It also makes a great inking vrush for comics and such.

And really the only Gouache to get is Windsor Newton. I have tried a few other brands, and they don't have the flexibility that W.N. has...

But Spooge already told you this. Let's see, will Spooge post a gouache peice of his so we can see his hand at it? Please? Inquiring minds would like to know...

Spooge-do you still ever work in gouache, or are you fully retired from the medium? I recall you saying that you do no more hand done art for clients, only digital...does this mean the gouache paints went in the closet? Hope not...

Kenzo Tanaka · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2000 4:59 pm

Wow, thanks for the great info everyone.

I'll definitely be picking up the W&N paints and brushes and give Goauche a try.

So when do we get that "Paint like Spooge" filter for Photoshop =)

Sumaleth · Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2000 8:48 am

A good gouache setup from scratch will be pretty expensive so I'd really recommend trying it out before you dive all the way in.

I still have full oilpainting setup that I used only for about a month before I bought a Wacom and I've only been back to the oils a few times since. (no undo!!! argh! get it away!)

Sumaleth