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Vortx
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 4:48 pm     Reply with quote
Hey everyone. Here are some quick spaceship concepts i did a while back. Pretty quick sketches....so not that tight....=)

*Note, these are not for Origin*

i'll try to get some of my really recent stuff uploaded soon....but i'm just too damn lazy to finish them....hahaha...

[img]http://www.geocities.com/fenzhu88/DropShip_01.jpg
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okay, not a ship...but i liked the design...hehe...

[img]http://www.geocities.com/fenzhu88/Dude_02.jpg
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hey TJ, if you're reading this...upload some of your stuff! i wanna see....say hi to dave for me...and joe <- what is he up to these days?

-feng


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Vortx
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 4:50 pm     Reply with quote
grrr...lets try that again...



okay, not a ship...but i liked the design...hehe...



-feng...better work this time..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 4:53 pm     Reply with quote
Once more amazing work Vortx.. can I ask one thing... What medium is that.. ?

It is not pencil.. and it doesnt look digitally made.. but it looks great..

Keep Up the great work..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 4:58 pm     Reply with quote
Vortx,

Very cool stuff! Love your dropship design......is the "hunchy dude" what is
gonna' drop out of it

Very cool work and effect with the markers!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 5:17 pm     Reply with quote
Whew, now that's one cool design. Can I model it ?
Next time, just edit your post. It's better than making another one.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 5:36 pm     Reply with quote
Vortx -- Have you done any work for FASA or TSR? Your style is strikingly familiar...hehe

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 6:31 pm     Reply with quote
Very cool. Do you have any tips on getting the perspective right on things like those ships? I assume you didn't do very much pre-planning on them.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 6:46 pm     Reply with quote
I belive he is using markers, prolly Prisma markers. Gota love the grey percents. But just incase I'm wrong, what did you use Vortx?

Good stuff...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 7:12 pm     Reply with quote
Those are really great dude... what did you do them in??
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 8:22 pm     Reply with quote
TJ-you from Westwood? Do you know Chris Ashton or Sean Keegan? SAy hey for me if so. They use to work here at Presto Francis and I. What do you do for Westwood?
Vortx- these are great as usual. You an art center grad? Learn on your own? I really like the look. CLEAN...the way I like to see art done. Just my personal taste. Doesn't need to be too accurate, or to perfect, just clean and readable. YOu have inspired me. I am deliberately taking a few hours this weekend and getiing some of my own designs on paper and out of my head...thanks for the inspiration...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 8:41 pm     Reply with quote
Freddy,

Yea I'm at Westwood currrently as the concept artist for Red Alert II. I work directly with those guys every day. I'll tell them hi for ya. Ashton just had a supercharger added to his new Mustang Cobra so now it has 500 horsepower! Keegan is broke as usual :

-TJ
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 8:53 pm     Reply with quote
Oh lord. Keegan could be Bill Gates' houseboy and still be broke.

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TJFrame
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 10:29 pm     Reply with quote
Feng,

You mentioned that you wanted to see some recent work, so here goes:

First, remeber that screenplay I wrote a while back? Here are a few of the early images I did. There are tons more.


Overlooking the ruins of the Wellspring...



A view from the lost city:



A chamber in the emperor's pyramid:



Here are some images from Red Alert II.
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Here's a concept of a spider-like seige tank that wasn't used:




Another spider vehicle, this one a ball point pen sketch of a wacky motor-bike type unit:



Here's a marker sketch of the Tesla Tank:




And here's one of the Solar tank:



And finally, here's a look at something from another unrelated project that I can't really talk about:




Well, that's it for now. Hope you get a kick out of them Feng. We should definately do lunch whenever you want. Just email me. Later

-TJ
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TJFrame
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 10:31 pm     Reply with quote
Woops! Screwed up and duplicated one of the images the spider-bike thingie should have been this:



sorry!

-TJ
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 11:21 pm     Reply with quote
*jaw drops to ground*
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2000 12:14 am     Reply with quote
o m guh

JJ

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2000 3:09 am     Reply with quote
*bulging eyes*

*drool*

*faints*

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2000 3:40 am     Reply with quote
"what he said"

*faints*
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2000 6:30 am     Reply with quote
Wow!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2000 12:16 pm     Reply with quote
Woha...

This place is overflooding with talent
System override, heh...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2000 12:14 pm     Reply with quote
w o w . . .

Herre J�VLAR!!!

Vortx! you..I...what...!! Youre good man...
With what have you painted them? No just a pen...tell me tell me!

So how old are you pepole? TJ and vortex...

What you do, is what i want to do in the future...I hope i can get so far as you guys...

REALLY NICE! ARHH!
g�tta....wow

/poxen
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2000 3:09 pm     Reply with quote
You guys are bastards!
GREAT stuff!

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Vortx
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2000 11:40 pm     Reply with quote
Damn TJ! You're making me jealous....fuuddge!! that's it...i gotta get my ass in gear and paint some stuff up. Those images are really cool! I feel like drawing now...
Sorry everyone else for the late replies. Been at my gf's all weekend. Anyways, to answer some of the questions i saw.
Yeah, these sketches were done w/ ink and gray markers. I lay most of the perspective down w/ markers...and just ink right on top. Pretty quick process when you get it down =) And yeah, i'm from art center.....you can usually tell by the style and drawing media used....just look at TJ's stuff! Man, i gotta draw some more. Hey TJ, lets definitelly get together for dinner or something. You still live at the same place?
And thanx everyone for the compliments...i'll upload more stuff when i get the chance. For now....tho it's 1am...i'm gonna sketch....freakin' TJ, i always get so inspired when i see cool art...no sleep for me tonight..hehe..
talk to you guys tomorrow..

-feng

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2000 11:45 pm     Reply with quote
Nice... really nice...


Vortx: what medium did you use.. please...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2000 6:31 am     Reply with quote
Hey, neat neat stuff!
TJ what medium did you use for those paintings?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2000 8:02 am     Reply with quote
tj that last image you did is breathtaking, the coloring is just absolutely beautiful
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2000 9:52 am     Reply with quote
I know I know!!! I agree with you guys!

Simply amaaAaazing.
Enlighten us!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2000 12:18 pm     Reply with quote
Well go figure, I was pointed to this forum by a friend because of TJ's pictures. I think mainly because I make renderings of them on a regular basis! I do fan art in the Westwood community and I thought I'd just say great job and keep up the amazing work

Here's my test render of the tesla tank


And here's a more recent rendering of the rhino tank.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2000 10:15 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for the positive comments guys.

As you can probably tell, Vortx(Feng) and I both went to Art Center College of Design in Pasadena. As far as I'm concerned, because of its its curriculum, location and instructors, Art Center is THE place to go if you want to get into entertainment design. I'm not saying other schools aren't good, its just that Art Center has a history of producing artists that go into the entertainment field (Syd Mead, Drew Struzan the poster GOD,Ralph McQuarrie,Craig Mullens and many many more). They have an excellent Industrial Design Department as well as a great Illustration major. They also have a buttload of SGIs and PCs with Alias and Softimage classes galore. Industrial Design people can major in Car Design, Product Design, or Environmental design. I majored in product with a minor in entertainment.

Binke,
I used photoshop for all the color renderings. I start with a pencil sketch, scan it in, then start painting. From time to time I will use Painter, especially for its smudge tools which I think are much better than Photoshop's. Sometimes I'll block in an area with a solid color, then layer over it with a texture from a photograph and set the composite method to Multiply or Overlay. After tweaking the contrast, color, and opacity of the textured layer to provide some variety and interest to the base layer, I'll merge the two and begin to burn and dodge the area to create three dimensional form. I'll then go in later and color dodge light sources if needed. This works really well on things like rusted metal and rock. It goes pretty fast when I'm focused, and it took me only about 15 hours start to finish of the green robot. I used that method on the concept drawing of the Tesla Trooper below.

I'm fluent in Alias and 3D max so sometimes I'll rough in a complex drawing in 3d to save time on shadows and perspective, then I'll paint over that. Its all about time vs output in the comercial world. What matters is how fast and good the finished product looks and the more shortcuts you can take the better. Once you know how to draw perspective and plot shadows the old fashioned way, I highly recommend using the computer to speed up the process.

PROCLONE,

I'm glad you enjoy modeling the designs I made - It was fun to come up with stuff that looked real world and not too far out and wacky. Red Alert was always about retro realism with a spin. By the way, that tank at the bottom is actually the APOCALYPSE TANK (formerly the mammoth tank). You can tell it by its twin barrels and double rocket launcher.

Feng,
e-mail this weekend and we'll get toegether maybe with Joe and Katrien.

-TJ

Here's that Tesla Trooper concept:



and here is a detail of the metal carpice:




By the way, are these images TOO big? I have DSL so I'm spoiled I guess...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2000 11:33 pm     Reply with quote
TJ- I was kinda wonder'n what size sheet did you have in photoshop when making that trooper up there? Must have been huge to have that much detail in there... Peace.
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