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Freddio · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 8:37 am

Good.

Now heres a selfportrait im workin at the moment. Can I have any suggestions comments how I can improve on what I have done?I know the ears are a little poor but i'll fix em up soon. What about the eyes and they hair?

I did this in front of a mirror and a graphire.
Thanxs

oh yea any ideas for the background white is a little boring?

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Zor · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 8:46 am

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Sorry coulnt resit...

Ok comments: - The shading is a lil over excessive still you may get away with thsi if you apply a "brighter overlay" to the whole image or if not then repaint the parts. - the hair is neat, my brushes help you?

Start to tweek it, and add the detail, get rid of the bad lines, and smooth things out, make them less blured and I think u'd be onto a winner..

Nice work

Lange_Pisang · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 8:47 am

Good Pic!

But you defenitely have to do something about the eyes...

The hair is cool...

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Freddio · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 8:50 am

aaah ok yep I did want the excessive shading

but yea what can I do to the eyes?

Lange_Pisang · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 8:55 am

Dear Freddio mate,

the eyes still look a bit sketchy, try to smudge it and add some more details in it...
Well, that's my advice, I'm sure there are more people who know better...

dines · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 9:52 am

Freddio,

the shadow under the right eye is a little too dark in my opinion.

For the eye you can add a white reflect on the top left of the pupil to make it realistic..

good work !

dines.

Mozeman · member Member # Joined: 07 May 2000 Posts: 217

I really like the use of color, but my personal opinion is that it looks too "blended," or soft. Maybe that's a personal preference, but I think it's a dead giveaway of the medium. Also, the lighting seems uneven and the structure could be tighter.

Here's a self-portrait by Frank Frazetta that I posted in another thread; it's a great guide.

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AliasMoze · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 10:15 am

Frazetta? That hack?

Har, har. Anyway, Freddio, it's been said many times, but you should really sketch out the entire picture, background and all, before anything else. It's obvious that you're focusing on single areas of the painting at once. Don't do it. If you stare at one section, you'll get to where to can't see the forest for the trees.

I'd lay off the burn tool for a while. Burning seems to make things look --well- burnt. Not a good way to paint flesh.

Freddio · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 3:16 pm

sorry guys for the big pics

AliasMoze how do you mean? arent i doing this ? examples below. OK thanxs for the help with the ideas on the eyes. This is all exsperience.

Thanxs guys for the tips

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AliasMoze · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 4:05 pm

Freddio,
No, you're not painting a background, and you're going for the details too soon.
By "sketch" I mean with paint (after you have a solid drawing). Just block in the planes of the face with a big brush. Think about it geometrically. Then you can start working smaller and smaller.

Spooge Demon has proposed that [anyone who's interested] can take part in a painting workshop with him. See his post.

Anyway, hope that helps at all

Freddio · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 4:31 pm

okie dokie

updated it a little worked the the left eye

DuKEZ · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 5:05 pm

you still look too badily burnt under the eyes.. lay off the burn tools.. :P

Freddio · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 5:13 pm

But I want it burnt.

The funny thing is though that I had just cme back from the beach and my face was rly burnt

Drorak · member Member # Joined: 20 Apr 2000 Posts: 169

How about a mirror as the background. I mean placing the face in the mirror and trying to get it to look like a reflection. That could look pretty cool.

... and you should get yourself a nicer model, this ones ugly.

Freddio · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 10:00 pm

haha

AliasMoze · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 10:40 pm

Fredio, if you were burned as badly as this picture indicates, then I hope the bandages come off soon.

Seriously, a sunburn is much, much more uniform, covering the whole face, with a SLIGHT difference in value here and there (usually everywhere BUT the eyes).

Again, my suggestion is to block in rough and go from there.

freddy flicks stones · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 11:05 pm

sunburns are a bear to paint and make it look like that. A suggestion, if you so choose, throw in some raccoon eyes of white skin around the eyes, that way when you paint the face sunburnt, you wont look like a cliche colored indian with short blonde hair. Now wouldn't that be something.As of now, going darker in the eye sockets make him look like he has a black eye, punched really bad. Good luck with it...

That Frazetta piece was done in anger after failing miserably again at getting work from a book cover company. The power of emotions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freddio · Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 11:38 pm

AliasMoze I put sun cream all on over my face except for the burnt bits

Ok I like the contrast This is my second ps pic so Its a learning exsperience for me

AliasMoze · Posted: Sun May 14, 2000 12:10 am

I understand, Freddio.
I'm just trying to give you the most useful advice I can. Take it as you will.

Fred, I always thought Franky Boy looked a little ticked off in that painting.

Freddio · Posted: Sun May 14, 2000 12:15 am