[Tzan]

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[Tzan]

Entitlement:
the state or condition of being entitled, RIGHT
a right to benefits specified esp by law or contract
a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group
also funds supporting or distributed by such a program

So um yeah, lots of entitlement in the US. The word has a broader meaning than you are assuming. But I understand what you mean.


Maybe I'm stupid enough to think I'm entitled to that life, liberty and happyness thing.

The gun folks are entitled by that thing in the constitution, a law.
God people are entitled by having laws that protect freedom of religion.

[Tzan]

[Oreste]

Lots of French bobo think that, in addition to the political, religious concerns, an American is a big consummer.

The firms in the US rule the consummers with a rod of iron--for instance having an all-land vehicle when you live in the city. According to them, consumming anything anyhow (wasting money or buying not necessary stuffs) is the symbol of a lack of personnality.

[Drunken Monkey]

I agree with you Tzan there are a lot of conservative cult members. But they have very little to do with why 2nd amendment is so important. Its cruicial.

[Tzan]

Yes, Fear is a powerful motivator.

Groups generally start with good intentions. Then they collect money to support the cause. The group grows with good advertising, they collect more money. The group now has paid members to promote their ideals. They work toward collecting more money to make the group more secure.

Its about this time that most groups can become corrupt. They use fear as a weapon against their own members to make them give more money or volunteer time to get the message out and collect more money.

Fear is used as a weapon by the gun and god people and by other groups like the US President and Congress, well politicians in general.

Nobody is going to make guns illegal or outlaw religion in this country. The bribes payed to congress are a waste of money because there will always be some people in there that will protect those rights. Those rights are not in danger.

All rights have limitations. a line must be drawn somewhere. The debate mostly involves where that line is drawn. We can't have people with nukes at home. So there must be a line, so there must be a debate, but does there need to be this level of fear mongering? I dont think so.

The core rights wont be eliminated, the line may shift over time, but its nothing to get too worked up about.

[Sumaleth]

tzan: nice use of snow cat.
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[Tzan]

Heh thanks.
I really like it too.
Money well spent on my graphic design education

[Drew]

That was an interesting read. Thanks folks.

Edit: BTW, one of those links put US gun ownership at 85%. That statistic was pulled out of someone's ass. I know very few people who own guns, and I'm in an area where they're easy to get. The US is not full of people carrying guns everywhere. I know exactly one person with a concealed carry permit, and I've never known anyone to carry a gun illegally. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not as common as some people seem to think.

[Affected]

Drew: perhaps those stats interprets guns per capita in a "creative" manner.

[Drew]

According to that statistic, there are 255 million people with guns in the US.

Wikipedia says:

[[Shizo]]

Yeah, i don't effing believe those stats!

[Drew]

My internet sarcasmometer is broken. Are you agreeing with me, or are you denying the fact that two dramatically different statistics have been presented?

[[Shizo]]

I mean, i don't believe that every second person in America owns a gun. I think there are very few people who own guns.

[Drew]

Ah, sorry.