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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:40 pm     Reply with quote
Saw it last night. Yummy yummy. Definite DVD purchase. @:-)

I laughed when Lars (sp?) showed up as Jack Thompson. Aussie's screwed Anikan's life. *laughs* And Jengo and Boba are New Zealanders, and add Jay Lagaia as Amidala's guard and Matt Doran as the dealer in the bar... man, don't mess with Down Under. @;-)
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:53 pm     Reply with quote
at first i thought the clones looked like Amidala's(sp?) body gaurd too, but i think they were differnt actors. Jango Fett looked differnt then the guy with the patch, but that would make for an interesting twist if they were the same person (or a clone of the same person)

just for fun. you guys want to see something really retarded? http://detnews.com/2002/entertainment/0205/18/d01-492788.htm

they claim star wars is rasist. they say it's portraying Latino's as terrorists cause they think Jango and Boba (and the rest of the clone army) look Latino. when infact the guy who plays Jango is from New Zeland... so lame.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 4:34 am     Reply with quote
IMHO, Episode II was great. I think Lucas knows what he's doing, and it put the first one into perspective a little more. Yes, it had flaws, but so do most good films.

Oh, and yeah, everyone was laughing at the yoda thing too. Wheeeeeeeee, *vzooom* *vzooom* *crackle*

[EDIT - whooah, took out the Christopher Lee comment in case it was a spoiler to anyone who han't seen it]

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 4:57 am     Reply with quote
I don't see why people find Yoda's combat scene hilarious. To me it's probably one of the best scene in the film when we finally get to see why he is the "Master".
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 5:45 am     Reply with quote
Svanur: AFAIK, people weren't laughing because it was badly directed or anything. It's the whole concept of this small Jedi master who kicks Dooku's ass which no-one's expecting. People in the cinema were even clapping. It was great!
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 5:52 am     Reply with quote
i just saw the movie and totally enjoyed it. i don't feel like it was one of those, "i feel special because i get it" films. it was just a fun movie. yoda kicked ass. the graphics were neat and there was no slow down because during the courting, obi won was doing the detective stuff. lucas did good this time.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 7:12 am     Reply with quote
Ceenda: true, true
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 8:46 am     Reply with quote
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I don't see why people find Yoda's combat scene hilarious. To me it's probably one of the best scene in the film when we finally get to see why he is the "Master"


I think it would ahve helped a lot if he didnt start limping like an old man after he just got done doing flips and like hardcore kungfu manuevers..seriously that was silly , but I still loved the scene !!
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 8:53 am     Reply with quote
Maybe he is some kind of a drunken master style fighter. Pretends to be something else but is in fact more powerful than at first glance.(hope this made sense)
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 9:06 am     Reply with quote
That was the first Star Wars movie I've ever liked. Pity there's only one left to make now that he's finally got the formula down

It was a fun fantasy movie. I loved the wide-mouthed feline critter.

I didn't buy that Padme would've so openly consoled Anikin after he admitted to slaughtering the camp of raiders, but then, I've known some messed up bitches like that, so . . .
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 2:11 pm     Reply with quote
terrible, terrible movie
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 4:45 pm     Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Coaster:
My review:

to falling out of a spaceship and rolling down a sand dune... her hair was still perfect and she was miraculasly nicely groomed.



that's what i don't understand. there are a bunch of obvious flaws in this movie that you should be blind not to see. and Lucas must have seen them as well, but why didnt he fix those flaws? are they intentional? but why?

for example, pressing the same button to turn on the space ship, and listening to OB1's message.

why wasn't there any blood coming out of Anakin's hand when it got cut off??

the whole acting reminds me of the first half of Mulholand Dr. , where everything was Supposed to look fake and cheesy.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 5:38 pm     Reply with quote
Maybe that button was like, the equivalent of our Enter button, ruler. Plus, an intensely hot laser sword would cauterize the wound on his stump, preventing any blood spew.

I was going to avoid this thread, but it proved impossible. I think Lucas summed up Star Wars fairly well when he remarked that it had become a sort of nerd religion. People across the world saw A New Hope, and were left with a serial flick ending. They were dangling from a thin thread, desperate for another laser fix.

2,000 years ago JC walked the Persian spice routes preaching the Good Word of the big Kahuna, hooking lots of folk on the sweet promises of eternal pleasure and the straightening threats of damnation. Then he died, and people were so struck by this that they decided that Christianity ought to be born, in hopes that he'll come back.

People clung onto Star Wars like it was the only life raft in the Sea of Galilee because they knew that we would finally know the truth; we were all hoping that Lucas would deliver. As such, nerds everywhere became so fixated that 1-3 would come that they became iconic zealots, fiercely defending every inch of the legacy, ignoring the flaws of God. Jesus II rolls around, and even though he's a gigantic lardass from the Bronx who goes by "Al", the disciple-nerd-monk-jedi-knights meritoriously defend the status of their savior, if only shunning Al's annoying sidekick, StereotypicalRastaFrog. People everywhere trying to make themselves seem original and individual denounce Star Wars as hard as they can, hyperboles and rhetoric abound. They point out the stains on Al's shirt, his terrible B.O. and his thnning hair. "How could THIS guy be the same Jesus that you all knew and loved? The first Jesus was all smoke and mirrors anyways. Buddha is better. YOU GUYS ARE MORONS."

Those are the atheists.

Star Wars isn't an atrocious series. I would say that it's on par with the best sci fi movies, with better art direction.

Schindler's List it isn't, but it ain't no mofuckin' Scary Movie 2.

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 8:51 pm     Reply with quote
Actually the story to LOTR is far worse, because its hurting for a plot. Star Wars ep2 does have a very definable plot (although shitty). LOTR had dwarves running around lost for 3 hours.

But, the acting in LOTR was much better than Star Wars ep2.


Over all I think both movies are special effects movie with little else to offer. If not for the great computer generated imagry how horrible these movies would be.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 8:55 pm     Reply with quote
I fully agree with Coaster. I could not have put it better.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 11:35 pm     Reply with quote
My review:

Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the clones
It was better then episode one by a bit. The CGI was better and its interaction with the few flesh and skin people was also better but still at times unbearable and visual cortext meltingly unrealistic and fake.

The plot was some sort of beneign reason for a war, dipped in the poorly acted out sauce of a predictable love story and sprinkled with the cheesy battle scenes which mix the two together so blatter spasmly bad.

Anakin didn't have the best actor, Yoda was completely CGI but not all too bad. I don't know if it was a joke though when he fought that count and did the whole tiger claw and light saber fighting... ...especially because of the fact that for the rest of the movie he stalked around hunched over a cane.

Some parts where good though, the action scenes where short but at least with the 'plot' (exept Anikan vs. the count... all you could see was the seizuretastic flashing like an exploding laser show and no actual people). The battle scenes weren't good.. they were'nt toooo bad though.

As you try to pry your mind of the discomfort of the movie theatre seats and the genericly boring film on screen what do you notice? The music. The music was appropriate at points (like the end) but dragged on way too long and loud at the unimportant points (hear the tention in the strings section rising as anakin awaits his toast to pop).

Final words:
Generic war movie with a really bad love story inside it and unrealistic to the level that after being stabbed in the back in three places, through an impossible battle, to another battle, to falling out of a spaceship and rolling down a sand dune... her hair was still perfect and she was miraculasly nicely groomed.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 11:51 pm     Reply with quote
I'll just wait until it comes out on video, then rent it and critisize it to the great annoyance of the rest of my family.

I miss the Yoda puppet! And the Ewoks!
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 7:57 am     Reply with quote
well, i'm not trying to denounce Star Wars. it just seems odd that Lucas didn't see what was wrong with this film, even with all the advisors he probably had.

i wasn't expecting Episode 2 to be "schindler's list", just an entertaining movie....,.,><?>

Did anyone notice that Yoda was begining to sound more and more like JarJar?
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 9:58 am     Reply with quote
Bloody hell. Its a kids' movie. They were all kids' movies. Deal with it.

People will complain about Natalie Portman's never-ravaged hair, yet make no mention of a universe that shares a common atmospheric mixture, impractical war machines that make stupidly easy targets, supposedly heroic characters who flail around like coked-up fairies, important diplomatic decisions being made by retarded giraffe toads and fourteen-year-old girls, elite troops who fight by slowly marching towards the enemy and firing from the hip into each other's backs . . . how could anyone get the impression that Lucas even considered making these movies into serious films for grown-ups?

The eight-year-olds in the audience ate it right up, and I was right there with them.

When that dropship fell and popped like a hundred-thousand-dollar digital zit . . . oh hell yes.

Star Wars has always been about highly-impractical cool shit.

None of the previous episodes had enough H.I.C.S. to keep me interested, but this one crossed the threshold into stupidly entertaining. Good show, ILM.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 10:16 am     Reply with quote
bla blakl dlfsdk This movie rule, the visual were spectacular, the fighting scenes kicks ass, the acting was alright.
Sure there are flaw in this movie but that doesnt bother me much. Is this the best movie ever? maybe not, probably the best visual effect ever.

This movie worth every penny i've spent!


btw, the lame love story was really not necessary. Blah, thats probably for the female audiences.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 10:28 am     Reply with quote
I went and saw it last night, and I liked it. With that said, here are some of my thoughts on what was cool/uncool about the movie.

---Spoiler warning! AHHH!---

The stormtroopers kicked ass. They actually behaved like well trained soldiers, and I dig the different colored bits some of them had on their suits.

Yoda was a badass whirling dervish of Jedi death. Yoda rules!

Amidala in that white suit gives me a case of the happy pants.

The love story was about as subtle as a sledgehammer hitting you on the head. Compare a movie like Leon, in which Natalie Portman showed subtle emotions well beyond her years without having to say very much, to Episode II, where they're constantly talking about their emotions for each other.

Is that Christopher Lee as Count Dooku? He just reminded me of Saruman sooo much. In fact, there were a few scenes that were very reminiscent of LOTR.

The duel between Annakin, Obi-wan, and Dooku was a let down. I wanna see a better fight than that. I got spoiled after the duel at the end of Phantom Menace. But Yoda made up for it. Yoda rules!

Jango Fett's suit was pretty damn cool.

But the best part about Episode II was the Matrix trailer at the beginning. Oh my god that had me drooling.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 10:34 am     Reply with quote
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Bloody hell. Its a kids' movie. They were all kids' movies. Deal with it.





"it's for kids" doesn't mean it has to be So silly and Cheesy(and stupid) that i just can't bare watching it.

kids aren't ThAt stupid..

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bang :

the lame love story was really not necessary. Blah, thats probably for the female audiences.



Naa, it was lame for everybody. but it is necessary, since...they're suppose to have kids right?

that waterfall,aaaghjhgj
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that waterfall,aaaghjhgj


I know!!!!! my pant exloded when i see that waterfall.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 12:12 pm     Reply with quote
it was alright.

was it just me, or did certian night scenes seem a little bit "noisey"? i think this is due to the digital filming, and the lack of digital projection in the theater that i saw it in.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 1:43 pm     Reply with quote
Yes... I agree with Coaster's review
to me.... it was bad...
the first half of the movie was really slow...
this is how the flow of the movie goes for the first half...
talk,talk,talk---special effects---talk,talk,talk----special effects---
talk,talk,talk---anakin throws a babyish tantrum --- special effects--- talk,talk,talk... -_-
and when they talk... there are no dramatic pauses or moments of contemplation, they talk as if the words are a recital of the script (which is...very bad. Especially the love scenes between Anakin and Padme).
-_-
These are unlike the words of great wisdom which Yoda uttered in Empire Strikes Back, heck, even Yoda doesn't seem like the same wise midget found in Empire...-_-
The whole movie, for me, is like Lucas trying to test the limits of special effects (or something like that...sorry for the horrible grammar.... its 6:00 am here... i havent slept yet...-_-)

The best Star Wars? The Empire Strikes Back...
why? Cause each scene had meaning, each note on J. Williams musical score elevates the mood, and the story itself unfolds effortlessly, it flows... like the Force... -_-
okay, now that sounds corny... (need sleep...-_-)

Have any of you watched any Bollywood productions? cause the love scenes between Anakin and Padme really reminds me of one of those bad bollywood movies...-_- (rolling in the meadows...blegh)
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 6:37 pm     Reply with quote
I saw it for the second time last night, I admitt I fell asleap during the middle section.

There's one thing i dont understand in cimemas, why do people clap and cheer, I mean it's not as if George Lucus was in the theatre, or the characters can here it. Maybe it's just me.

The guy who played Anikin cant act for shit, but it was better then seeing Leonardo Dicaprio.

Maybee I'm just mad because I was mugged at knife point and punched in the head buy some fucking gang in Bourke street Melbourne after the movie.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 6:52 pm     Reply with quote
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Have any of you watched any Bollywood productions? cause the love scenes between Anakin and Padme really reminds me of one of those bad bollywood movies...-_- (rolling in the meadows...blegh)




Oh god, you coulndt possible be any more correct! It was EXACTLY like it without the anoying high pitch Indian music.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 7:16 pm     Reply with quote
Movie was awesome.. It was alot more than I expected. I wasnt expecting much after Episode 1. Even though I look back at episode 1 and its really not that bad. Screw you if you think differently.

I love how the whole concept of midichlorians was Dropped. Not mentioning the idea is the best way to go. Kinda like.. forgeting it ever even happened. It works that way.


Yoda just amazed the crowd. Everyone in the place was in a roar! so damn cool. I was a bit surprised how he didnt finish off dooku, but then again.. yoda prolly wouldnt kill someone unless for ..balhhh reasons I cant think of right now. :P

Coruscant was amazing, Hayden is a good actor IMO for this type of movie.

wahtelse..

Only part in the movie that was way too overblown with efects and not much "good plot" was the factory, video game scene. So much stuff happening, so little I really cared about.

Clones is definately better than ep1. Better than spiderman
just on par with LOTR

Who gives a flying Frihole' really...

goodnight.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 10:00 pm     Reply with quote
A lot of people need to lighten up, I think. If you come into a movie like this thinking like a damn critic, you're going to be dissapointed. "Special effects blah blah"... Jesus, it's a Star Wars movie! Which movie hasn't had special effects in it? They've just progressed from A New Hope onward. The parts I've liked best from each movie are the scenes of action. It's what Star Wars has always had. The battles in space, the wars on the ground, the intense jedi duels, the insanely fast races... Most of the movies have each of these, or many of them. If you want to bash this movie for lack of plot or cheese-factor, you're basically in the wrong place. Yeah, the movie isn't amazing in these categories, but it doesn't need to be... that's not why it was made.

I mean, damn... It's a bunch of jedi's kicking some ass. Relax and enjoy. Sure, we've seen it before in the series, but I sure as hell ain't tired of it yet. If you are, stop watching. And if your imagination is officially dead, go read the newspaper or something instead.

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uhumm, yes exploding pants...

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