[travis travis]

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Originally posted by Basement bound:


Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh.....
travis travis my pervious post reread as a bit of an attack. Not intended, just opening up for more debate/explanation.

JA

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Yeah, I took it as that and was a bit strong in reply myself, please excuse me. Anyway, I think that does open up plenty more to talk about so if anyone's up to it, dive in!

[XandGash]

If everybody got naked in public tomorrow, and stayed that way(at least on a regular basis), in a year from now no one would have a problem with it. The question is, would our views of the sanctity(or lack thereof) of sex be altered?

[PixelPeZ]

Ha! I'm going a bit off topic here but I really would like to say this on sijun aswell:

Don't you think that most popular fairytales are more violent and cruel than most current TV - series and movies? Think about it.

In 'Snow White' (I'm not referring to the Disney version here) the evil stepmother wanted her stepdaughter to be taken into the forest, killed, and her liver and heart brought to her so that she could eat them and assure that she indeed is dead. Later on she tried to poison Snow White on several occasion.

In 'Cinderella', the heroin is kept as a child slave by her own stepmom.

In 'Hans and Gretyl' (not sure about the actual English title) parents send their children to the forest where they get lost and are captured by a witch living in a gingerbread house. She tries to eat them, but the children manage to shove her into an owen and burn her.

The 'Pied Piper' story (cant remember the actual tiltle again) is about the black plague and the rats that used to spread it.

In 'Little Red Riding Hood' the wolf tries to eat the little girl, but eats up grandma, just to get killed later and cut open to get her out.

Actually I think those 'classic' stories are way gruesome, violent and graphic (most of them are really well written) than any of the other media violence. But somehow those stories have been around hundreds of years and we have accepted it. Perhaps because people today can't really connect to written material any more ...

I have grow up surrounded with different sources of violence, of which the most terryfing being the tv-news (! think about this one aswell ... doesn't the news show most violence? and the most realistic one ...) and written material. All the movies and games were make - believe ... something on the screen and apart from a few quite funny instances, I haven't tried to imitate anything I've seen or haven't even thought of it. If someone does however, it is an act of insanity. If you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction, you are mentally challenged. In my eyes.

And parents should take on more responcibility on their children and not blaim the media. Who rose them? You or the TV?

So there. My rant.

[ April 24, 2002: Message edited by: PixelPeZ ]