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Author   Topic : "Illegal art rip off for sale.....heads up Craig Mullins"
V Shane
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:22 pm     Reply with quote
http://fantasy.cccmc.com/Fantasy_Artist/Craig_Mullins/index.html

Can't believe it, thats bullshit. I got this link from a RPG artist board Craig you better look.


V SHane

Here is what their "copyright" notice says:
"Copyright Notice: Please Read before ordering
When you purchase the wallpapers, it is not the wallpapers you are
buying, but the time it took for us to collect them, create them and the

materials and time to burn them onto a CD (DVD).
You only have the right to view them on your machine and for personal
use on the same machine. The Art Work is copyrighted by the original
Artist and the Wallpaper Design by CCCMC, and you do not have a right to

share the wallpapers or to modify them or to use them in any document
(electronic or paper or paperless), unless it in on your computer only
and is not viewed by the public. You can not recompile them, sell them,
loan them, copy them or distributed them in any manner. All of these
pics are available on the internet for free if you choose to locate them

and take the time to download them. You are paying for our time to do
this for you. We are not selling you any rights to use them other than
those that you would get by copying them yourself from the same
source(s) on the internet. If you feel that you have work here in which
is yours and that the copyright has been infringed upon, please contact
us and we will discuss this with you. All Work on this site is from the
fair trade policy and/or public domain then modified by us to become new

original artwork. We do not relinquish the rights on said artwork and
maintain our copyright on our work. If you do sell or make available in
any other format (electronic, paper, paperless, website, peer-to-peer,
etc or any other means) these pictures to anyone else you will then be
buying a full license agreement for distribution at the cost of $1000.00

per set as detailed above. We reserve the right to charge you in any
manor if you do so, including any means open to us, including legal
action. If you have any questions, please contact us.
Margaret Organ-Kean did some digging and found their info and that of
their ISP:
Registrant:
Lord Greywolf's Gaming Center
11134 US 19 unit 1A
Port Richey, Florida 34668
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: CCCMC.COM
Created on: 07-Jan-02
Expires on: 07-Jan-05
Last Updated on: 19-Jan-04
Administrative Contact:
Sawyer, Thomas [email protected]
Lord Greywolf's Gaming Center
11134 US 19 unit 1A
Port Richey, Florida 34668
United States
7278635285 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Sawyer, Thomas [email protected]
Lord Greywolf's Gaming Center
11134 US 19 unit 1A
Port Richey, Florida 34668
United States
7278635285 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
CCCMC.CCCMC.COM
CCCMC.CERTIFIED-MCSE.NET
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:33 pm     Reply with quote
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We reserve the right to charge you in any
manor if you do so

I'm not the only one who finds that sentence funny, am I?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:12 pm     Reply with quote
After searching that site, I found alot of work by artists I know. Maybe you should post that information at gfxartist to let some of them know.
I posted this message at a couple other sites just so word gets around.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:48 am     Reply with quote
This guys such an idiot. After some artists requested him take down their work, he replaced their images with slanderous pictures claiming the artist was a snob. Hes also asking people to boycott the artist and not to purchase anything the artist sells. This guys just asking for a lawsuit.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:29 pm     Reply with quote
SUE! SUE! SUE! SUE!

it's the american way!

I can't believe this! isn't this concidered stealing or something? in any case, it IS violation of the artist, since any artwork you make is automaticly copyrighted, and the rights are totally yours. this website is illegal as hell.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:23 pm     Reply with quote
For those who are interested ... Don Seegmiller started a thread at Conceptart.org
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27955

I know the whole thing is not funny ...
but maybe people who are not involved can giggle!?
It is pretty funny what young paddy1 found:

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http://etools.cccmc.com/Lord_Greywo...r_Greywolf.html
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:41 pm     Reply with quote
I single handedly made him get rid of those slanderous images talking down to the artists on his site. whoohoo...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:52 pm     Reply with quote
Electric Monk,

Yes'sir, they'd have to put me up at the damned Ch�teau de Versailles and let me ring for breakfast with a little silver bell before I'd let them charge ME with ANYTHING !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:30 am     Reply with quote
Thanks for the tip!

I have just about given up becoming indignant. Glad that the mob did the job for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:42 am     Reply with quote
If you all could place your pitchforks and torches into the proper receptacles when exiting the mob, it would most appreciated. Please extinguish all torches prior to returning them, to avoid a repeat of last year's incident.

Drive safe, people.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:03 am     Reply with quote
I think it's just a crying shame that folks think they're not doing anything wrong. What a bunch of dumbasses. A simple "Cease and Desist" should do nicely. If that doesn't work . . . then . . . loosen the hounds!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:28 am     Reply with quote
I saw this at ConceptArt.org, i think someone or everyone should do something about this.

Everysingle artists work that he has stolen can sue him! Just because he puts, a little border of his own around it doesn't make it his.


Arrrr... Booy...I ooottta..........
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:42 am     Reply with quote
Heres a question. Can you sell prints of your art if its a copyrighted character or would that be copyright enfringement? Ive seen that around too.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:04 pm     Reply with quote
That would be copyright infringement unless the picture was a parody of the character... and even then, you might end up having to prove the parody in a court of law.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:45 pm     Reply with quote
eyewoo wrote:
That would be copyright infringement unless the picture was a parody of the character... and even then, you might end up having to prove the parody in a court of law.

See: Penny Arcade and American Greetings.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:50 am     Reply with quote
Shocked Quick question, how do you cats go about finding these guys?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:29 am     Reply with quote
They still havent deleted Mullins pictures. I dont think hes selling them anymore, but I wouldnt even want him looking at my stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:57 am     Reply with quote
He only deletes them if the artists contacts him.
But it should only be a matter of time until the whole site is down.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:38 am     Reply with quote
This may help: http://www.felgall.com/htmlt46.htm

Felgall says that you can't stop people from viewing the source html and can't disable the "view source" feature, but a lot of rip-off jerks like "Lord Greystoke" don't have the Javascript savvy to get around this no matter how easy Felgall says it is to do. Sure, it's "easy" for him, a pro.

Basically it's a page detailing the advantages and disadvantages of html protective software, i.e., a rip-off artist can't just screen capture with ease. About the best he could do if say, Mike Chen's program for instance was installed is hit the Print Screen function and save it as a bitmap and the res on that is waaay low...unusable for his needs. I know about Chen's particular program and it works well insofar as what it does. Makes it invisible to web spiders, too, but also to search engines, so, if a first page listing in Google is what you're after, this software makes is a bit more difficult but at least it's not so easy to pirate another's website.

BTW, at the bottom of the page listed above, Felgall's HTML Source Protection Program is FREE, so at least these things offer some protection.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:59 am     Reply with quote
Well now it seems he's made them all free to view - gosh that was nice of him Twisted Evil
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