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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:03 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:39 pm     Reply with quote
Reakshun: thanks! That's a fairly comprehensive breakdown. Spooge answers your question a page or so back btw.

Meaty Ogre: your last two are excellent, especially the second one.

Mikko K: wanna slap? Mad

thebrave & Mon: stunning

Here's some Roman devil worshipers cutting a rug. Hermes Cthoniosssssssssssss!

Pud'



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:10 pm     Reply with quote
meaty goodness Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:38 pm     Reply with quote
So much great work in this thread and all I could come up with was a 10min or so doodle made a little less worse by various manipulations.



Back to lurking and drawing cubes in my sketchbook...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:03 pm     Reply with quote
[no.4]
screwed perspective

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:16 pm     Reply with quote
thanks pudding! i'm feeling the pain.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:53 am     Reply with quote
playing around

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:29 am     Reply with quote
I'm your fan Anji
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:08 am     Reply with quote




Reakshun, Please send me the ad or some way to see it. I can�t imagine it was.

I am giving a demo/talk next week at a community college in Honolulu. They bribed me with dinner.

Ron, the pirate stuff and the mouse ears things are all invented no reference. I think doing a lot of matte painting has helped me a lot with that. You have to be extremely thorough in your understanding of the lighting situation, and sometimes having plate photography to reverse engineer can really help you understand what is going on. Why every plane is the value it is, why every color is the way it is. You have to have that surety to pull off a matte. So when you have that base to pull from, you can start exaggerating in doing illustrations, since you know what is real, and can always pull back if needed. Also looking at photography really closely helps to understand it�s limitations and characteristics, generally to avoid them, but you know about that from all the studio time you have.

Um your second question, that is a real battle. I can�t stand noodling images, once I have solved it composition and lighting (getting it to a �speedpainting� level) If feel the image gets weaker and looses impact with more noodling. I am always up for rethinking the whole problem from the ground up, but no turd polishing, please. But a lot of art directors squeal about it, and worry about getting fired. One thing you can do is not show any picky work in the portfolio, so everyone has the same expectations. Yes I think that is the answer, you might not get the same jobs, but the work will appeal to a different set.

hey Pud', you're stuff's cool. Don't worry about it�.

Really! You have ideas, and it would be bad to see that take a back seat to technique. I don�t mean to insult you by saying that you could not fight off the influence, but it creeps around your brain in strange ways. What I see in your work now is refreshing, different, and the very straightforward, honest technique keeps the viewer�s (and your) attention where it should be. It gets the point across, no further fancy technique required or desired. So get the DVD, but only watch it during the day or with the light on. And probably not alone. Good to have a spotter sometimes. Just my opinion, take it or leave it.

Burnout, a very few times they overlap, I might sketch something out, not like it, does not fall into the realm of the contract, I keep it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:16 am     Reply with quote


corrected vers.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:22 am     Reply with quote
【NO.336】


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 5:16 am     Reply with quote
spooge demon: I am always amazed by your light composition solutions.
Anjin3515: Very beautiful!

Well, I am trying the digital again...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 6:31 am     Reply with quote
thanks, pato.

not ready for bed, inspired by Bill S. beaker professor villian dude from Elektra



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:04 am     Reply with quote
Mr. Mullins,

I'll take your long silence as a no to my request. I apologize for not taking the opportunity to explain myself better. Good luck with your plans for the future.

Keep up the great work.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:07 am     Reply with quote
【NO.337】


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:15 am     Reply with quote
spooge, your last two pics definately rock. i like the helmet of the sniper dude very much, cool brushwork and form-contrasts and all that...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:18 am     Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:56 am     Reply with quote
@zhuzhu: lovely

@Pato: thats a nice one!

@spooge: wow ... the first one is amazing. Its so unfinished but somehow finished so loose but clean and every image has its own special story.


Just great to see so much good stuff all day so many different ideas united.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:26 am     Reply with quote
Spooge, with the goal of being able to invent lighting w/o reference, would you recommend matte painting, just to develop an understanding of light? Or could a person eventually get to the same point with the cube exercise?
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I am newly arrived, pleasing close much to shine on.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:00 am     Reply with quote
Spooge, Awesome Halo_Car_wreck rendering me bows, maybe one important thing with realism lays within the bouncing lights, beautiful. Smile
I can look at that helmet forever. Smile

William Bouguereau copy, not rocksolid but it was hell-fun to do it.



pud' - thank you. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:43 am     Reply with quote
Dougbot, Meaty Ogre, Summer Pudding, zhuzhu, Anjin, Spooge, Matthew...
Great stuff!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 4:34 pm     Reply with quote
nice work everyone!

Spooge: I love the last one :)




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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 4:53 pm     Reply with quote
No.10

another try without ref.....
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 5:17 pm     Reply with quote
great stuff on this page! spooge, swarm, anjin, zhuzhu, meaty orge, etc...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 5:29 pm     Reply with quote
[no.8]
from ref:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:30 pm     Reply with quote
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nice work everyone!
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