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Duracel
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 11:55 pm     Reply with quote
Sorry for spamming, but i think this is necessary to remind some people of what they are doing:

210kb
http://galeon.com/alucarudo/mina1textura.jpg

220kb
http://server4.uploadit.org/files/051203-robo48.jpg

510kb
http://www.angelfire.com/art2/flaptraps/redknightsmall.jpg

540kb
http://user.tninet.se/~ajq251i/wacom/tree_in_mist.jpg

480kb saved as BMP
http://www.perdador.com/greencowgirl1.bmp

These are only the 5 most extreme examples on the last 3 pages (from 5 different people).

3MB download as often for a single page in this thread even with DSL and a download about 80kb needs more than over half a minute.
And i know people which dont have the infrastructure in their city so they have to use a modem or something with only about maybe 10kb download or so .. they would need over 4minutes for one of the last 3 pages!

Please take a look at your image-size - dont save your pictures wrong.

For a good example, spooges very large pictures in size never need over 200kb download.
Well, its only a question if pictures which are higher than 99% of the monitors make sense.
Spooge ones are full of interesting brushwork so i dont mind, but for example the one above used only the standard-impressionists Brush of Painter .. so i dont see a need for such a large picture.

So please, just think about ...
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Detailling a speedpainting is nothing but speedpainting in detail.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:01 am     Reply with quote
I agree Duracel.
But why don't you post links instead of images?
This also hurts the innocent ...
Wink

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Duracel
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:57 am     Reply with quote
Yeah, you're right, but do links get that much attention?

I think better one single page far too much(for me too, im also innocent in this case), but the next ones in harmony(hope so).
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Detailling a speedpainting is nothing but speedpainting in detail.
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retro
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:27 am     Reply with quote


@swarm: thanks

@duracel: had the same problem as i'm still on 56k. take a look on opera, you can switch the images off in that browser and load only those you actually want to see.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:16 am     Reply with quote
When I save, I "save for web" and peg the target file size at 150kb. of course the quality is usually about 20, but whaddya gonna do? Postage stamps suck even worse than jpgg(*&^ing.

Sorry Matthew, i was talking about last Samurai the movie, unibrow being Mr. Cruise. I should let people in when my mind takes a JAG.


retro, yes, worth every penny. And READ it as well as look at it. The oil sketches were from a 3 hour session, first one took about 1.5 hours, second 30 minutes. Probably a less, as I did a lot of little scribbles because the setup was extrememly complex and backlit. Looking at the top one again, it looks a little Schmidly. better watch that. I still have not made friends with oil paint. It does what it wants, not what I want. I have to learn to trick it, or be patient. It like a super responsive sports car with 1000 horsepower. So capable, but you will end up a black spot on a tree unless you know exactly what you are doing. Or so it seems to me at this point. Eventually I hope to be able to fling it around.

Another thing that gets me is the value range is so deep. You can really paint dark and keep clarity. With water based stuff or even digital, it's best to keep things out of the sewer.

this is a mess, and it will never be otherwise. It had promise, but I lost it again. I made a simple 3-d wireframe for the arches, you can see it here and there.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 6:29 am     Reply with quote
refined it and cleaned up.Will do the clouds tomorrow and give em more contrast

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 6:38 am     Reply with quote
I'm sorry, Duracel, I had my mind in other thinks while uploading that. Won't happen again, thanks for the advice
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 7:13 am     Reply with quote
@Soak pretty nice composition needs more?
@spooge you kill it. nice stuff in the last few pages. (and always)
@AndyT black and white is so fun
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 7:35 am     Reply with quote
great studies swarm, & pls keep going!

covered up the naughty bits with a star (for the kids). um, yeah...


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:38 am     Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 10:42 am     Reply with quote
sorry guys i'll fix that nonsense image
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:22 pm     Reply with quote
from reference.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:24 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:08 pm     Reply with quote
thanks,
excellent work everyone!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:48 pm     Reply with quote
argh!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 5:00 pm     Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 6:12 pm     Reply with quote
nice prob, weird thingy going on with the neck ahha.

@zlu : I cant beleive you can paint that saturated and get away with it! I love it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 6:28 pm     Reply with quote
Probustion: Nice!
Did you look at the tutorial by Roberto Campus when you did that?
Kinda reminds me of that portrait ...

18 minutes! Gimp / mouse! From life! Embarassed !

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 7:41 pm     Reply with quote
spooge demon wrote:
I made a simple 3-d wireframe for the arches, you can see it here and there.


Just out of curiosity--on the rare occasion that you use 3D, what software do you use? My guess is Max?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:07 pm     Reply with quote
many great works! frost, like the feel of the skin, cool rendered...!

found a crappy old drawing on my harddrive and threw some colors in with open canvas


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:21 pm     Reply with quote
thx insane Smile

took my old watercolor box out





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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:50 pm     Reply with quote
frost and zlu!!!!! those last ones...
sheesh.

Thanks spooge for the reply!



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:42 pm     Reply with quote
Here is a painting from a model we had the other night. Ron did an awsome demo and taught us some great techniques. I've gone as far as I can on this one. Crits are more than welcome!

Spooge- love your stuff, so much mood! It's what I'm striving for!

Digitaldecoy- I like your use of colors in your last post.

Swarm- Versatile! thats good I really like the style your pushing.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:45 pm     Reply with quote
cicinimo : I couldnt resist write that your last drawing is very very good.. like it.. whoaaa

good works everyone.. keep going!

sorry for no pix Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:07 pm     Reply with quote
used one of cake-eye's sketches from his book for this one.

I wasn't very creative today:) thanks cake,


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:39 am     Reply with quote
im not sure how old this one is... i was searching another one when i found it.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:01 am     Reply with quote
【NO.193】photoshop cs


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