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Citizen Kane
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:59 am     Reply with quote
Um, this piccie has me wondering about the facial hair the most, so can you give me crits as far as that?! I didn't use many layers so don't kill me. But anything about other stuff you can point out too of course.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:43 pm     Reply with quote
The beard looks wonky because his facial proportions are off. You need to either find a diagram of a properly constructed face or work from reference. Just to get you started, though, he has no chin.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 3:07 pm     Reply with quote
Updated, please critique again....
Erased all the past entries of pic.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:10 pm     Reply with quote
OK, this is farther along, and I think that it's almost done. If you guys would be so kind as to say so, or tell me whatever needs tinkering with please. I think I fixed the lip, mouth etc.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:47 am     Reply with quote
preety good job, i like the background and the face is painted good. But i think the head is to flat, you should redefine the light source, make it more obvious. Now its hard to tell where is it comming from
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:08 am     Reply with quote
Yeah, I have this REALLY bad habit of blending stuff in too much. That's probably why it looks flat. I should just let the orangish light kinda 'bounce' off parts of his face right? And I should not really worry about blending it in too much right? I don't think that a secondary lightsource is necessary, but I will take your advice and I will make the lighting more obvious. And as you can tell I'm not that good because I'm only 17.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:58 am     Reply with quote
Don't think about blending that much. I made a little paintover to show you how i would go about this pic. Hope you don't mind. IGNORE it if you don't like it/find it useful. I know 17teen that are great artist and 40 that don't know anything about art. don't be hard on yourself, if you like to paint than do it, you will become better and better in no time Smile keep up the good work

i made two different light sorces cause i didn't knew waht your oryginal idea was

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:08 am     Reply with quote
oDD: Did you sell your soul for skills ... recently? Shocked

Amazing overpaint!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:06 pm     Reply with quote
OMG!! That is wonderful oDD!! Smile Razz
That is a whole new way to approach it!! I have a problem with lightsources, and I will definately take this information into account, as it can make an image look tons more dynamic. I love your idea of the wide nose, and how you tackled the face etc. I use a wide variety of color, but in this one I just blended too much, and should've let the pinkish tones, and blues, etc stick out like you did in your paint over. The armor is superb as well, but I like my hair better, cuz I wanted kind of beautiful 'locks' of hair that were vibrant, etc. Oh well, your pic should improve my careless mistakes 100 fold....cuz I'ma use it for reference :0 Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:10 pm     Reply with quote
And I really should've made it 'messier' before I cleaned it up, because it would leave more outstanding values, instead of doing it somewhat precise from the start.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:24 pm     Reply with quote
By the way oDD, what program and what tools did you use?!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:47 pm     Reply with quote
Andy T thanks Smile

Citizen Kane: thanks, Glad you like it and that you find it usefull

- i used Photoshop 7.0 , 99% of the time one brush (tweaked default brush form ps), and color picker

- remember the reasaon why its "messy" is that the base of the painting are most important, i could work more on this painting and make the transitions betwean color smooth, i could add some more details, but the painting wouldn't differ very much from what it looks now, and i just wanted to show my idea. If the foundation is good its then easy to make the finished painting, but if the foundation got some flaws all the smoothing won't help. So remember not to move further, dont go into detail until you are happy with the base.
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