[Guy Spenzz]

Hi, this is my first post with anything of mine in it. and I kinda got a problem, I suck, but a norrower path to take would be I suck at making backrounds so if anyone thinks they could help with a paint over or a few simple lines have a look at http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/1885642 and im deeply sorry for its max size, its my scanners fault I swear. the style im going for is kinda comic like and sometimes unpraportionate(sp?), but the guns I sorta messed up on.

[Guy Spenzz]

I forgot to specify, the desired backround would be a warehouse or a ofice building rooftop, and as you see from the picture there is only white for backround cause I messed up so many times I just left it white so not to show my embarasing failures

[AndyT]

You should probably post the image here ... maybe like that:
show the preview and link to the big version.
Why didn't you just resize it if you think it's too big? (I don't think it's too big btw.)
The filesize could be smaller though. Try a higher compression.



I like the style.
I think it's ok that the proportions are supposed to be stylized.
But you shouldn't use that as an excuse if people think it doesn't look good.
I think it has a lot of potential. But not all of the guns should be viewed directly from the side.
It makes the image look flat.

Think more about perspective and try to make it look more three dimensional.

Drawing/painting backgrounds is something you want to learn, right?
Don't be shy ... post sketches that show what you had in mind.
Then try to explain why you don't like your version and what should be different.
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[Guy Spenzz]

Thank you AndyT, for posting my pic and for your comments. I have always messed up image tags some way or another so I didnt want to risk it. as for resizing it, I accualy like the size I was just thinking of people with 56k.
The proportions arent an exuse, just the way I draw some times.
I thought about different angles for the guns but decided to go with an easyer perspective for me to draw, im going to change it though.
I guess ill scratch up some kind of backround and post it.

[Guy Spenzz]

just a rooftop sunset, extreamely crappy and doesnt work at all with the shadows of the pic but its a start and keep in mind I did that background in 3 minutes with my mouse. I dont know how you made the pic a link so im just gonna post the thumbnail and http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/spenzz-gunstancebkrnd1.jpg

[AndyT]

That's how I did the link thing:
[URL=http://www.url1.com][IMG]http://www.url2.com[/IMG][/URL]

I think the gun in the standing guy's right hand looks a lot better now.

You already wrote a disclaimer btw ... the quick sketch is just fine
Hopefully there will be more replies.

Right now the image is a little empty.
Maybe you could search google for rooftop images if you need ideas
... or if you think you need reference (it's not cheating)!
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[Guy Spenzz]

something like this maybe?

[AndyT]

Exactly ... like that
Just make sure that the perspective is right in the final picture .
Do you need links to tutorials about perspective?
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[Guy Spenzz]

perspective tutorials would help me dearly

[Max]

Try this one by eyewoo: http://www.eyewoo.com/ndx.tutorials.php?which=2&i=3
It's very good and simple.

[Guy Spenzz]

thanks max, its working pretty good for me so far

[Guy Spenzz]

thanks again to max for showing me that tutorial. I got kinda tired of the windows so I hastily finished them. but I improving.

[AndyT]

The tutorial Max posted is good.

The new version looks cool already.
Just the roof looks ascending because the perspective is not 100% correct.
The parallel lines should all have the same vanishing point.


There's a lot about perspective in the Loomis Books:
Creative Illustration
Successful Drawing
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[Guy Spenzz]

Im pretty sure I messed up that line by coloring over it and took a while to notice it and tried to fix it without using the perspectives. ill fix that

[Guy Spenzz]

I think I got it, the vanishng point is a bit higher and to the right from where your helpfull little pic shows it but you are right, thanks for the help.

[Max]

you are welcome