[Jason_Manley]

no he didnt luna...i think that was sumaleth...Im too lazy to look


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[Francis]

Jason, I'm sure there was no intention of that on the part of conceptart.org - just my perception at the time. Disregard what I said.

I actually had the chance to talk to Scott this afternoon - he came by our studio for a short visit. I asked him about his plans for a forum, and he confirmed that he was planning to add one to his site. He said the focus of that one would probably be even narrower than the other ones (hopefully I'm not letting any cats out of the bag inadvertantly). I got the impression from him that he valued the other concept art forums and was not out to try to replace either one, or sijun, or other art forums.

I also got to check out a copy of his concept art book, and it is pretty damn nice. He's got a lot of plans for continuing with that, adding other books and tying some of that into his forum. I think his efforts will go a long way towards promoting the concept art "industry" as well as educating the general public about what it is.

It would be great to combine all the different forum efforts somehow - I'm not sure how to do that, it seems akin to creating a one world government. At any rate, I'm open for ideas. I'll always be into that type of community.
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[-HoodZ-]

oh that would be great suma one big forum with all the greats posting....one less forum to lurk.......most recently ive been lurking the Drawing Board i really like that caricature forum

[glody]

in a PERFECT world i think communism would work......forum wise.

it would be nice to see some type of unification....who knows.

[eyewoo]

I've been batting around the idea of starting a forum with a quite narrow focus. I'd like to focus it on children's picture book illustration, but that does seem to be a bit too narrow, so I thought about adding general magazine illustration as well. But then I suspect that section will greatly overpower my primary interest in the children's picture book section... so, as I said, I've been batting around the idea... just batting it around...
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[Frog]

That's an interesting idea Philip, but I wonder how much support it would get? There's very little interest in that sort of work round here, which is unfortunate as I much prefer it to the games/fantasy/scifi stuff that dominates the internet. The truth is that commercial illustration doesn't seem to interest people that frequent forums like Sijun or Eatpoo.

I would like somewhere that offers a wider (and less adolescent) range of work and subject matter so if you go ahead with it you can definitely count on my support. Might just be me and you there though.
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[Dom]

Hope you don't mind if I join in with my 2 cents

Francis: No need to feel bad. I took on the opportunity to help out a forum stay alive. I have a great interest in concept art myself and couldn't stand to come to that darn ezboard. After seeing conceptart.org opened up I knew that your board is slowly going to die down. The main reasons that conceptart became so favoured was the lack of strict rules such as those on your forum and the fact that they had so many talented people running the place. Visiting conceptart.org I notice that the concept art sections many times has just digital images. No concept explanations really. Im not saying that this is wrong by the way. But when it gets down to it, most people just post images and art for the (oh oh oh that's great) sort of response. They aren't looking for a critique. Conceptart allows this much more then your forum. Or at least it did Anyway point is. I would probably do the same. There is no point of competing if it's not a business venture. Forums are for sharing ideas and learning (at least I think so). I find it a bit ridiculous to compete. A waste of time if you will.

On another topic. Just got Scotts book! Great! Look out for a full review on the book on InsideCG.com. That's another part of why I decided to help you. Because I enjoy concept art so much I decided to sort of expand InsideCG into that conceptart market. Featuring interviews and reviews related to concept art. I must also apologize for my lack of involvment in your forum. I thought I would be able to in some way moderate the forum, but it seems that time has won.

Jason: I must applaud you and your team for the great work you have been doing with your community. I do crawl around there a lot, don't have much time to post though. I will someday sometime. That reminds me do you have a personal website of your own?

I definitely think there is no point of having two separate forums on a very similar topic. I am sure you guys will work something out. Whatever you decide will always be alright with me Francis.

Sorry for the long message. Cheers
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[Jason_Manley]

thanks dom

the team gt forums are still up there...and work learning is still going on. I look forward to working on something to bring the two communities together.

seriously...what can we all do to bring together the group on a project or contest? We can make a big hubbub about it...get a lot of great entries...LETS DO IT!

i didnt really think about the two forum thing....I wanted to get as large a group of pros together and i could so that those up and comers would be able to get the information they need.




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[roundeye]

perhaps a combined art forum portal where each forum retained its individual characteristics/domain/but with a shared user base?. any group contest or activity could be shared as long as it benifits all equally. i dunno. the eatpoo folk are a jaded bunch. and we must be dumb, cuz we dont really see how we'd benifit from grouping with sijun and CA. we stole everyone from sijun, and CA stole everyone from us (and maybe some seneca college dropouts). as is its allready a little incestuous, no? everyone knows where everything is. everyone allied themselves. anyways, if you find a way to benifit us, let us know.

the main reason im hesitant is that i dont think, for all our effort, we benifited one bit from the last cooperation. i may just be completely delusional though, who knows.
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[Jason_Manley]

i dunno...i thought your site did a fantastic job proving itself and in how intensely they all were competing. even you managed to do something roundeye.. the conests get plenty of exposure that is for sure. the winners get their prize. noxismad won and he gets a front page spot for his work...which you could have easily won as well roundeye...had you put in the same effort.

There is a great group on all these sites that do not normally mingle I think. Look at jon foster for example..and all he does..or andrew jones...those guys arent on doing that over here...and for every foster we have you all have a nivbed or a mullins.

the key is to bring it all together....the whole group...and to see who learns what and to see what happens.

I think the portal idea is possible...perphaps just an easy way to keep everyone hooked up...it would be a great thing to have as the contest area...a neutral place. with all the art forums links and info. I dont know who would host it though...I could...i have the space and bandwidth now....but either way Id be interested for sure. we could even rotate the banners so no one gets top billing.

I like a group contest idea. We could come up with some huge prizes I think...a combinatoin of cash..art supplies..maybe a big wacom or some other stuff...really make it huge...and make it worth it. I could raise some cash and prizes for sure. THE art contest for 2003. hosted by all sites...not just mine or yours. round trip air tix are not horrendously expensive...we could send the winner to a museum in new york or LA or somewhere with airfair and museum tix included...I dunno...its possible....these are just ideas....but if we had a big contest with some amazing prizes it could be a really big deal and could attract a hell of a crowd.

if we could get the big wigs like yourselves to compete then we could get great results too.


you know how they used to have the prix de rome? in the 1800s they would have a big art contest each year and the winner got to go to rome (not that we can afford that) but the winner got to go study in rome and earned a lot of respect. it would be cool if it had that same kind of flavor. It was successful because so many great artists competed in it. Im hoping that is possible now.

what do you all think? Im just throwing out ideas here.


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[Francis]

I like the portal idea too - it's probably the simplest way of unifying the various forums without having to re-create the universe.

Jason, those are great ideas. I know you guys at CA, as well as roundeye/eatpoo spend a lot of time and energy having these "value added" elements in your forums. If enough of us have time and energy it would be a really good move.

Dom, I don't think I'm ready to pull the plug on it just yet (CDF), although lately it has been looking a little grim over there. I think this discussion oughta continue, and we can see if any solid plans come out of it.

Sorry for the not-much-to-it post, gotta run, but will be back...
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[IDrawGirls]

Portal came to my mind one minute before I read it. That would be great.

Maybe if there was a seperate moderated forum for people who are just starting out and haven't decided on a direction ...
all the boards that are flooded with that stuff might benefit from that.
It could even be a place for the "how do I post pictures" kind of questions.

Well maybe that just works in theory? Maybe that would require too much work?

eyewoo - I think it's a good idea. I'd lurk there. And you're likely to find interested people @ Shane Glines Drawing Board (and maybe Wetcanvas).

[Lunatique]

The portal idea sounds cool, but it still doesn't seem enough.

For example, all the forums have a "general chat" type section. Why not merge them into one?

Or, photography section, speedpaint section, 3D section..etc

Just have one giant website like cgtalk, and that's all we really need.

The only downfall I see is that the community gets so big that it doesn't feel personal anymore.

eatpoo is special because it truly feels like home, and you are part of the family. Other forums have that too--but not nearly to the same degree.

I mean look at cgtalk. It's like a bit university where some people don't even venture to many of the other sections--and most people are strangers.

So, I dunno... Maybe things are perfect the way they are right now. Maybe a portal is the perfect answer. *shrugs*

It's fascinating how this reflects the real world. Everything is about the global village these days, and it seems humans have a natural tendency to want to consolidate fractured portions of the species into one.

[Yuri]

Actually, who says that a huge forum with 1000 over pple can't be a nice place? It all depends on what u post. :p And whether u are nice to newcomers. ^^;; I mean in some forums, pple even post threads to welcome them but some pple will probably not appreciate it. They find friendliness sickening...

*shrugs*

I remember Sijun a couple of months ago. Pretty active. It was even more active about 1 year back when I just browsed through the forums.

I'm not sure... maybe u can have one of those threads where pple can post all sort of stuff?

Still, maybe u can make pple post links instead of showing the images directly in a thread. It can really hit ur bandwith quite hard. Even if u're on broadband. :/

[LineDetail]

Hey Dhabih

I made a digital art (site) section on my news and information site.

The address is http://digiart.NewsForNow.com

I even just purchased a message board for the whole site as well.

Feel free to join and any artists who are up for some fun, I created a forum called Art Battle.

The Forums , although on a seperate server are all part of the NewsForNow.com site. If you want to add another forum that you think can be useful, feel free to suggest one. So far I'm running NewsForNow.com all on my own. Things may go a bit slow but I try.

Enjoy!
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[lalPOOO]

actually he quoted Sumaleth, but its all good... I guess.