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Anthony
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:34 am     Reply with quote
Heya fellas, my latest doodle. Started as a speed painting, but dragged on for awhile. The arches in the ceiling were such a pain in the butt. I modeled her face after a photo I saw once in an ad in Vogue or somewhere, otherwise no reference was used on anything, and no photos were used. Whatcha think? Very Happy

Note: The right side of the arch is lower than the left, which caused for a big headache in designing the ceiling! Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 1:43 am     Reply with quote
I like what you have, but here is another way to look at it, so ignore it if you want.

Try to think of what the big forms are and what they are being lit by. The reflected light off the left wall illuminates the railing vertical, but her body shadows it. Stuff like that makes it look more real. Think of her head in the same general way. Once you get the big stuff right, add all the nice detail.

You have saved me from doing boring stuff tonight.





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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:15 am     Reply with quote
Anthony, i love it ! its most excellent ... i love the fact that the arch is lower on on side ... i dunno why but its a great idea i think ...

*gasp* you have been spooged .. if i were you i would save this topic hehehehe ..
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:56 am     Reply with quote
pretty cool, i like it. Especially the mood of the pic.

Youve already recived good crit but i just want to say that your shadows are too sharp, observe more in real world how the edges of the shadows change depeding from the distant from casting object.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:45 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for the great replies guys! Very Happy


Spooge - Mucho Gracias for the paintover and explanation. I really have to get over this habit of noodling before getting the main values in(did better here than in the canyon though?). How do you deal with saturation levels in an image that has very strong colored light like this? I found myself fiddling with levels on her dress, trying to balance the very warm illumination with the fact that the dress is blue. I ended up using a compositing app to adjust her dark levels to be more warm.


Andromeda - Thanks! I kinda like the off-ness of the ceiling, its really confusing to look at.

oDD - Thanks man, I agree that I need to *think* more when painting. I keep learning a lot(largely thanks to Spooge here), but it takes a minute for my brain to digest it and apply it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:48 pm     Reply with quote
Hi Anthony

Very nice piece, and I always dig seeing what Craig has to say about others' artwork.

My small comment would be that your perspective seems to have stretched out the walls and floor a little bit. I think the checkerboards on the floor, the width of the door, etc. are longer than they would really appear. If this is a flat one point perspective, the planes receding away from you would be much more extreme than you show, so things like doors and windows almost appear more like a few vertical lines placed close together - you would read very little in their horizontal dimension.

I don't know if that makes sense, but if you can go to a long hallway and look down it, I think you can see what I'm talking about.

Yes, nitpicky point, but just in case you weren't consciously aware of it in your piece...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:04 pm     Reply with quote
I very much like the feeling you're going for here. It reminds me of the Uffizi in Florence Italy.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:58 pm     Reply with quote
Francis - I'm glad you pointed that out, because I had certainly overlooked it! The way I did the perspective was to create the pattern flat first, then distort/scale/transform into place. What I didn't think about at the time(yes, I'm absentminded Smile ) is how long the pattern should be before distortion. Very interesting!

Inspector Lee - Thanks much! Anytime I remind someone of the Uffizi I'll consider it a success Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:50 pm     Reply with quote
I see red x's for Spooge's post?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 12:00 am     Reply with quote
holy apes... Shocked
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