[Matthew]

Hey

I have finally got myself a Wacom 2 Graphire.
This is the first test and I messed around with it to test the different pressures.
I was thinking of to put this one in the speedpainting but it took some time to make so I made a new thread instead.
What a control you can achieve with the Wacom.

P.S. I know about the anatomy, just a wacom test. If anyone have any wacom tips to give me feel free, they are really appreciated.



Matthew

[Frog]

Hope you're enjoying your new purchase

As you know, the character needs a lot of work, but don't be discouraged it takes a long time to learn how to draw well and enthusiasm (which you have in spades) is the fuel you need to get there. The trees are actually quite good

Are you using reference for your paintings? Until you get a better grounding in art it's definitely best to use ref so that you aren't just making it up as you go along. When I was learning how to draw in my teens I copied a lot of stuff from comics, not original and not necessarily correct but it did teach me a lot about drawing. I haven't even read a comic in about 15 years but that doesn't mean it wasn't a useful exercise for me at the time Use whatever ref inspires you: photos, films, books etc... Once you are more comfortable and skilled you can then learn to draw without ref.
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[Citizen Cow]

Im not sure why no one has mentioned this and if someone has why Matthew isnt heeding their words....
I would avoid photoshop and any kind of coloring, painting until I got a better handel on anatomy. I know you said this was just a test but this is representitive of most of your work.
When I started posting at 'Poo I was told quite quickly that I was putting the cart before the horse. I should stop coloring and focus on getting my anatomy and perspective correct. Im almost there and have improved dramatically and have just recently started to color again after about 8 months.
I dont think you are being helped here. You do have the passion it seems that an artist needs but not the skill or technique. If you continue drawing the way you do now. you will never improve and only form habits worse then you already have.

Can I get a witness?

[Matthew]

Oh, I have been told more than one time and I have also been flamed like a bilion times here in the Sijun Forum.

Regarding the anatomy, as I said it was just a doodle with the wacom so I wasn�t even trying to get the anatomy right. Just playing around with the brushes and wacom.
Although I wasn�t looking for C&C are they always appreciated and you are right. I have some anatomy areas that I struggle with but doesn�t mean that I am ignoring them.

Avoiding coloring seems a little crazy to me just to get the anatomy better. As it is for me now I am trying to paint and sketch or draw everything. Otherwise you will never be comfortable with the different tecniques.

Is the anatomy that bad on this one.?
Maybe too small head, but other than that.?



Matthew

[pulpy ze brachypelman]

hahaha wacom tablets are just a way to feel in paradise !!!! i've never understood how some people can draw with a moose

[Citizen Cow]

As with the top pic everything seems to fall apart from the chest up. Its hard to check other anatomy due to the fact that he is fully clothed. The chest seems to be represented by two big circles. For some reason in both pics his right shoulder as hanging lower then his left, it almost looks disconnected. The neck just sort of stops at the jawline and the neck muscles are ... not right.
Both pics demonstrate a basic understanding of muscle placement. There is a difference though between drawing what you see and drawing what you know. Always draw what you see, never what you know. In time they will become the same.
As far as the coloring goes.... You are shading muscles that do not exist. You are practicing depth using color in areas that shouldnt have any depth.
In closing...
Sit down and draw necks in various strains, Draw shoulders, arms raised high, arms down low, arms straight out. Draw faces using simple expressive lines.
Draw Draw Draw. Coloring will not help you to understand what a shoulder looks like. Its fun, no doubt, but that time should be used sketching and improving on the fundamentals.
If this isnt the first time youve heard this then Im wasting my enrgy typing. The artists on this board and others have spent their lives( most of them) improving. When they give advice its a good idea to stop what you are doing and listen, and follow.
As i said continuing with your current path will help reinforce bad habits that you are choosing to form.

[Drunken Monkey]

You most likely are wasting your breath. The guy obviously thinks there are only some areas of anatomy he is struggling with.

I told him the same thing pretty much months ago and he answered that the exact same thing too.

[Matthew]

But uhmmm, I think I have improved if you look back some time. But if I and others were going to be perfectionists then it would be useless to post in here the nearest 2-3 years.
That is the big mailfunctioning with this Forum, everybody wants to be impressed so no-one dares to post picture that is a little bit out of perfection.
Well, hmmmm.

Matthew

[Citizen Cow]

Well after 1,000 posts in four months Matthew must know more then Monkey.

Honestly Matthew, slow it down and study art the way it is meant to be studied. Cut back your speed paintings ( hell even I dont have the balls to post in speed painting threads..) as there is no difference between your speed paintings and you regular paintings.
You have the energy to devote to art, youve posted scores of works... but its not quantity its quality as far as SIJUN and other forums are concerned. Maybe PolyKarbon would be a better place for you? They concentrate on the anime style as I see is evident in your sketches and it looks more like a learning forum then Sijun is... Hell, Malachai started posting at Poly before Sijun ( although he was great then too...) and they told him to post here instead.

My ENTIRE POINT is you do not seem to be improving. There is no magic brush combo or software that will make you better. It is practice. Practice of form, prespective and life drawing. Not practice of drawing post apocolyptic anime samurais. with broken shoulders and engorged neck muscles.

I challenge you .
If you are going to continue to post your attempts.. ~ post evidence of pratice.
Post a sheet with nothing on it but perspective sketches.
Post a sheet with nothing on it but facial expressions.
Post a sheet with nothing on it but Anatomy practice.
Post a sheet with nothing on it but HANDS, ARMS, SHOULDERS...

Do this and you will imporve greatly. It is gaurenteed.

Post another sketch of a guy standing there staring off into space with incorrect proportions, a broken shoulder and a mutant neck wearing rags or the all too Clich'e "ANIME ROBE" and you will be demonstrating you do not care to ever improve and therefore care nothing for this community and the artists.
Everyone wants to see you improve. Everyone but you it appears?

[Matthew]

Well, this could go on like forever. What do you mean with everyone but me?
So the knowledge of the members goes from nr 1 and rising the top, top ten in the Sijun is the best painters. If a member has been in here longer that would automatically make him a better painter? is that what you are saying Citizen?
if you think that the pictures that I post is everything that I Paint or draw during one day you are wrong.

It is funny to me how some people gives crits and then they can hardly paint themselves, not saying that -that is the fact with you.
But please post some pictures in here so I can see for myself.

Matthew

[AndyT]

He's trying to help!
You make the same mistakes over and over again. You won't learn correct anatomy that way. You can't take on that complicated subjects.

[Intuos]

It doesn't matter who tells you that you're wasting time/energy with your current direction in art, Matthew. Craig Mullins could tell you exactly the same thing, and you'd reply with something like:

"Well hmmm, who are you to point out the mailfunctionings..inginsging in my anatomy? I can see that there might be a small problem with his baby toenail, but everything else is DEAD ON. So Mr. Mullins, just because you're respected throughout the entire industry as a pioneer of the digital medium, I don't find what advice you give me very useful. I will continue to do things my way."

I truly feel that your desire to improve does not exist. You're quite content remaining at the level you're at. You gain nothing from these forums. People feed you tons of great advice, and you ignore it. Why are you even here?

[Citizen Cow]

Please call me COW or CCOW or I will eat you.

I mean everyone but you because apparently you do not care to improve. You refute and justify crits and show no sign of meaningful effort to work on your form and blah blah blah.

People dont have to be good artists to give a good crit. Anatomy is Anatomy. And wrong anatomy is apparent even to an untrained eye.
I was going to post examples in my first post but I was running late for work looking for them. I will find my first post and last post when I get home tonight if you still care to see.

This is only going on forever because you are refusing to accept what everyone on this board has apparently already told you. No one expects you to be SARGENT but there is a certain quality of work that is routinely posted on SIJUN. Thats what makes it one of the greater Digital art forums. If you think you can hold your own with the other artists in here.... well crap, Im pissing into the wind.


I dont think I am discouraging you in any way. Im trying to challenge you, humble you and point you in the right direction.
I spose I am wasting my time and overstepping my station. So be it.

Continue your POST FRENZY!!

[Matthew]

Somehow did my point get lost somewhere in here.
Everyone has a good point.

Edit
CCOW you posted a new one before my post was posted.
You are right. But I still want to see some picture form you.

thankx
Matthew

[shawnhud]

Matthew- Cow's pic is beating a dead horse in case you were wondering and even that anatomy is better.
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[Citizen Cow]

Its obvious people want to see you improve.

Here is what good reply from you would look like

[Matthew]

But hey, are you gonna start to give crits to my posts too. That is certainly not necessary
I mean, I said you were right even in my second post, I haven�t claimed to have the best anatomy on the earth. Somehow it is you who are not listening to me.
And if I should comment even further it will always be me who get�s the blame, what�s up with that? When faust and the other were on the Flaming path I was the one that got blaimed and almost Banned.
Why can�t anyone agree with me sometime for a change? Can you agree to that I have not claimed to have the best Anatomy, or am I misunderstood in that too.
Hello? Hello?

What is the next thing on your Agenda? Are you gonna make fun of me and ask my age? Or are you maybe gonna edit this post too? ohh please, something more, please? Ohh, maybe the anatomy is bad in these letters?
Or maybe you can do something like Tilokani did, take one of my pictures and add a huge penis.

huuuu, Why am I bothering
do give crits but stop with fucking make fun of my English or my posts. "!!!