[Holyoak Powerlifter]

Trying to end up with a knight on a horse. This is what I have so far, its slow goings. I am no great artist, I am just taking my time and working on it until it starts to look like I think it should.

I've got the hair, beard and face all roughed in now, but I'd like some more help on how to proceed to detail this and make it look more realistic, or at least make it look LESS like its from "Toy Story".

Anyways, I like what I have done so far, but I don't have the experience to know how to proceed. Advice and tips would be welcome, and I love overpaints. I have little advanced art knowledge, so I have no idea really how to make the skin/eyes/hair look textured and more real.

used wacom intuos and photoshop 7.

[the_insider]

i didn't bother with the hair, lips, or ear cuz i got kinda restless after a minute---but i think you do know where the shadows, glares, and details SHOULD be but you have trouble rendering them through your hand

--study facial proportions also--because your eyes were the least in-line---a lot of times i will get a mirror and use MYSELF as reference for lines and lighting--do that with your self sometime...

fix the ear----take the time to go in there with one-pixel brush and put some detail in---especially the hair--it looks too smudged...add wrinkles if the subject is an elderly person such as this one (i assume)---anyway--sorry i didnt get around to the hair too show you a bit more clearly what im talking about--laterz

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[Holyoak Powerlifter]

right on, that gives me alot of good places to start. I'll go through and see if I can get some of that on there. I'll start in with some more detail today and see if I can't touch it up some more.

[v]

Hello,

Well I don't have much to comment on the image, I think it's looking very nice. My only concern is the direction you're taking this.

You state in your message that you want to do a knight on a horse, but you're starting from the detail of the face and drawing out. I guess there are people that can work that way, but I would recommend that you work the other way around.

In other words, work from the general to the particular. First draw more or less what you want in the image, where you want the horse, the guy, etc. on your image plain. This way you work out your composition first, you can do it very roughly too.

Then start rendering in and defining your picture. If you start from your head and draw out it can end up a very static image and it'll be hard to make your figure have a nice gesture.



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[Holyoak Powerlifter]

Yeah, I can see how it would have been easier to do the total picture first. But, I am a horrible compositionist. My only talent is with photoshop, as far as art goes and making stuff look real, I am horrible. The computer is all that saves me.

Anyways, heres an update. Not sure if I will do any more than this. I really need some art classes.

[Mindsiphon]

The main thing that stuck out to me was the yellow used for the hair. I thought it needed some more contrast with the highlights and shadows and a bit of variation in the skin color. Here's an overpaint to illustrate what I'm talking about.

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[the_insider]

see that's a true master MINDSIPHON!!---see in my overpaint i was trying to keep it in his same kinda cartoony style...eek---awesome overpaint!!
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[Holyoak Powerlifter]

Thats not an overpaint, thats an conquer-paint. It certainly is spectacular... but I am nowhere near that skill level. Not in a million years.