[Cyberjobe]

I do not feel confortable posting something that is not originally mine but I loved the painting and decided to do the same again to see if I can get the technique. In fact I've changed a little bit adding more dirt and colors.

Please c/c.

My image:



Original Image, by the GREAT artist JIBE:



I hope he does not get angry with me

[Bilbo]

Well, to be honest i think you should have asked for permission before doing this.

This said, i also think painting over an image is quite useless. I strongly doubt that anyone can absorb someone else's talent/experience/technique/whatever by painting over his creation.
Rather than trying to blindly copy, make an effort to understand. Try looking at the choices he made and explaining them, Try figure out why this image appeals to you so much. Once you have some insights, try using them on your own creation. You'll probably never use it the same way as the original artist did, and that's a good thing- you wouldn't be trying to copy Jibe's work if it wasn't unique.

I hope that wasn't too harsh, I'm not trying to put you down or anything, quite the contrary. Be brave enough to be willing to do some crappy artworks as a part of your learning process, knowing that with each step you make you are getting slightly better.

[Cyberjobe]

Thanks. It was not too harsh, I understand all about your point of view.

Just try to learn, using as a model a pic that I admire. Like if I were drawing using living models as reference (What would I be copying if I try to draw my self portrait ?). I'm just trying to re-create something that already exists.

Ps: hehe, in fact I like HIS pic much better, but even so, I think I've learned something within the whole process.

Let the subject die.

[crazybread]

Good for you Cyberjobe!

I think its great that you're trying to copy one of your favourite works of art and I honestly thing that JIBE would blush knowing that somebody was such a fan. And yes saying that this is a copy with a proper credit is the right thing to do and anyone doing this should include the info you have wrote. Shit I would be honored if somebody tried to copy my stuff. Trying to visualize what the artist must have gone through to create the image could be a very worth wile learning experience. Power to you! I'v learned with a similar technique.

happy learning!

[Max]

interesting crazybread.
I should try something like that.....

[Cyberjobe]

Hey, thank you guys very much for the words. I was starting to feel bad about "copying" other's person work. But as You've said. I've credited and I'd like HIM to see it and maybe give me some hints.

Thanks pals.

[AndyT]

There's a difference when you draw from a living model or from a photo. You need to decide where to simplify and if you want to stress something or crop the image...

If you copy artwork you won't learn why the artist decided to paint the pic the way he did.
Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think you will learn how to apply the technique to a different subject.
You could for example try to paint that guy in a different pose!?

I think it makes more sense to try to improve other people's images when you find them intriguing and when you know you can make them look even better.

I guess a lot of people would appreciate overpaints. Besides I found it hard to make major changes to my images. Working on other people's pictures helped me to become more courageous.

[Cyberjobe]

The idea of making the gauy another pose sounds good to me, but this pic served me as a reference, that is... just look at it and try to make it. I know I should try (and I will) but I don't know if I'm skilled enough to make a turn around of this character.
It was not my intention to "improve" the pic (it seems very good to me), but to have a point for me to compare what I'm doing and what I like seeing.

U can see that his image has "flat" colours (that's not a critique) that I'm not used to do. (learn something, gotta try to use flat colours) and so on the learning goes, IMHO.

Now, What I really don't feel so confortable is if it was a good idea is to post the pic at the forum.

[Petteri]

Jibe�s work was much better. Maybe you should figure someting new out by yourself.

[daeldren]

I think that if you tried to paint it or sketch it freehand it would have worked a lot better, that way you would have learned more and also you would be using your own style's and techniques at the same time which would probably make your version look more distinct and probably work better. But I beleive that for learning purposes it is good to view others works and try using their techniques thats how a lot of artists learn. And I think its okay if you do give credit to the original artist and respect them.

[v]

Hello,

There's absolutely nothing wrong with copying another artist's work. The problem is when one copies another artist's work and claims it as our own.

I think it's all good as long as one makes it clear that one is copying the image from another artist and additionally I would include, in the image itself, a notice to the effect of: "after so and so". So and so being the artist one is copying.

One should always study the masters, or in this case those who inspire us. Yes, it is _very_ important to study from live objects as much as possible (be it models or for example toys); but more people should be looking at Vermeer, Sargent or whoever it is inspires you with the idea of copying their art.

All of this of course is my own opinion, but most of the great painters I know have copied great works at one time or another.

Having said all this, I wouldn't post the image for critique as a 'copy' is supposed to be just that a copy.



V



Edit: Sorry about that, on your image, that hand is an important part of the composition, don't leave it out.

[NeoFun]

I look at artists and attempt to figure how they do the things they do-- brushstrokes, colors, ect. My art is my art- but drawing from other artists styles and techniques only helps me to become nearer to the images I see in my head. I must agree though, that it is much more rewarding to attempt to copy someones style onto another subject matter. It would be interesting to see you create a thread of it in the finished gallery.
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