[Prometheus-ANJ]

Seems like itchstudios (my host) is down so I'll link these from my swipnet server instead. I've started putting corny little slogans on them now.







Allfiction> I got 9y of normal swedish school education plus 3y of highschool(?) at 'Estetiska programmet p� Jenny Nystr�m Gymnasiet'. I can't translate that into american school terms. I didn't goto a fancy university/artschool or anything so I'm pretty much selftaught. It takes a little longer to learn things on your own of course.

[Arc][Pello]

about 30 mins, its just a section of the actual full image which im going to turn into a full blown piece of work

[Oblagon]

[Hyptosis]

gecko, great lizards

[Tinusch]

Those are great, Klaivu. All of them.



20 minutes... First picture in about a year or so.

[Sukhoi]

Little John: Great, weird car!!! I love it!

Sukhoi

[spooge demon]

Did I say something about resolution? Work at all different sizes.

shazamm, don't know about Halo2. Did an upcoming cover for EGM with halo, though. I am worried because they might buthcher that one too.
thanks, turkoess

magic pen, yes, I want a patron, desperately.

janne, I work with reality about 9 hours a week. not enough!

rise, neff!

hoodz- that's a good thing, yes?

Jack Daniel's- hmm, that's not the usual term for planes, but I know what you mean.

Try to look at reality as much as you can, and think how you would paint it. Most people starting out put too much information in things, making shapes that make logical sense but not visual sense. The shaded side of the building and the ground, for instance, there is no indication of it. Your mind knows that it is there so you might want to indicate it, but it would jump out at you. Also look at where the legs and ground meet. nuthin there. this is largely a thing of deep shadow. In the light, things should separate.

But sometimes you need to show things that you cannot see. Sometimes drawing from the model the ribcage will be obscured. Figure out a way to show it. Also working from photos requires a lot of knowledge to do well, because they obliterate so much information. Stuff copied from photos without this knowledge is really really obvious.


So you see it can get complicated. It takes a long time to figure out what to play up and what to suppress. That is a huge aspect of naturalistic art.

To start answering the above question, your mind has to work in two mutually exclusive ways simultaneously. It has to analyze the 3-d forms, local colors, materials, lighting etc. But at the same time, you have to submit to just the information that forms in your eye, to just look at the 2-d shapes and edges, not what your mind says is there.

So the progression is, the real objects that you know to be there are lit by light that you are aware of and have analyzed, and that results in just a bunch of values and colors and edges. There are artists who work in one area or other predominantly. Hogarth lives in the structure, Sargent "submitted to the values." He did not care for anatomy, but was accurate enough that he did not have to be (I suspect he knew a lot more than he let on). Have these two ways of thinking and seeing when you are looking or painting something live. Blur your eyes and think and analyze why you are seeing what you are seeing. If you are a fine artist working only from life, you can stop there, but to paint something out of your head, you have to use all your experience to reconstruct what was there, or to project what would be there if the subject where in front of you. Then you can go about translating what you know to be there into a bunch of shapes and values.

To work out your head you have to be adept at both ways of thinking. Well, it helps.

If this magically gets better overnight, it can live. If not it's going into my new 8hp amerind mackissic shredder/chipper

[oDD]

[Gecko]

[Gecko]

[AntePlanka]

Wow...I've been reading this forum for about a week now. I havnt been painting much for quite a few years. Found some inspiration and started again.

I was thinking of posting a picture but after seeing the drawings posted today I dont now if I dare. You are really great, all of you!

[toast!]

experimenting

[ceenda]

toast. Your website is absolute class. Great stuff. Pic is awesome too.

[AntePlanka]

Ok. Here it comes. This is my first posting. I was trying to make a speedy painting and failed miserably. This took far to much time and didnt end up the way I wanted. I used referanse pictures on the net for the pose and the gun. hehe, should have found one for her top too.

Feel free to comment it. I need som guidelines please

[aymeric]

SPOOGE : I carefully read what u wrote above.
What I understood was very useful and interesting ( i am french and i dont speak english very well ).
First point : I have a question concerning your paintings.
Before painting something, do u have a precise image in your mind of what the result will look like ?
Second point : Could u please write an illustrated tutorial ( or more ) so we could see how u begin a painting. Many people probably already asked that but as we say in french : " qui ne tente rien n'a rien "
Thank u

[AndyT]

There is a tutorial at wetcanvas.
And it's a pretty bold request, don't you think?

[mitch]

READ WHAT SPOOGE WROTE
Anyone who is an artist should read what spooge wrote at the top of the page, u will be learnt. Thanks for posting it spooge. I agree with above and would be very grateful if you wrote more on the subject of making art.

[seaholm]

A few hours mostly fiddle screwing with it.



Gecko, you inspire me.
Hell, all of you inspire me... thank you very much!

[Max]

[ September 08, 2002: Message edited by: Max Kulich ]

[Prometheus-ANJ]

Arghhh! I'm making shapes that make logical sense but not visual sense. I'm not keeping my values within the allowed scope of a given plane. I'm painting as if everything was equally lit from top left...

Oh well, here's number 10.

[Gandalf-]

Craig: Thanks so much for taking the time to answer my question. I very much appreciate it. Your insight helped me a LOT. You're a really, really good teacher. I'm continually amazed with your generosity in helping others when they ask for it here at Sijun. You're a really good guy, I don't think you hear that enough from the people you help.

Thanks again!

[Basement bound]

Gecko have you been going to the zoo lately?

[-Gux-]

Transparency is for sissies! j/k

[Gimbal8]

Snorkles: Thanks.

If only I can learn to simplify. I think I'm going to write that in bold letters on a post it note and stick it on my monitor, because I constantly need to be reminded.



An hour is just long enough for me to make something look like crap. Perhaps I should aim for 30 minutes.

Edit: If only I can learn to spell.

[ September 08, 2002: Message edited by: Gimbal8 ]

[beat]

Eyewoo: the last one? thanks!
Toast : I'm working on painter, and yes, I recently started using the P knife. Can't say it's my number one tool, though :-)
merci - btw, c'est de la balle, ton site. bonne peintures a toi aussi.
Janne: thanks. the strokes : yeah, I like to paint "thick" lately.I hope it's not freezing into a superficial style, though. My references for these kind of pieces are my own shots of friends and people around. no fancy photos, believe me.

freestyle sketch

[doyleww]

just a little something



-q

[kana]

those sketches are awesome, klaivu

[Shikome]

Oki, boldly I post my first post in the allmighty speed... ehh, post (3times)
Be gentle

Shinobi [charcole-eraser] 20 min


Myself old picture ref [Tombo markers] 50 min


C&C surley welcome!
And I just want to say thanks to all artists in here for great insperation!!

(plz excuse spelling)

wOOt-I got the 1000th post-

[ September 09, 2002: Message edited by: Shikome ]

[ September 09, 2002: Message edited by: Shikome ]

[PD]

great robots ANJ-77

don't know the time, prob 30 min, crosshatching takes long time

[kana]

i started a sketchbook: