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Manik Monkei · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 12:00 am

I can't understand how anyone can get so upset over a little flash movie.

Besides.. if it really offends you, remember this: everytime you post to continue this argument (flame war) it bumps the whole topic up, allowing more and more people to view it.

*shrug*

The_Anarchist · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 7:41 am

If offends them so badly becaues their closed, liberal minds cannot just laugh at somthing once in a while.

snarf · member Member # Joined: 20 Dec 2001 Posts: 155

Half of these arguments don't make any sense. Biseor and Anarchist are just sticking political distinctions within ordinary sentences in a desperate attempt to seem intelligent.

For example, take the sentence:

I desperately need to take a piss.

Now, let's Biseor-ize it:

I desperately need to take a communist piss, Hitlerite!

Transparency is an art you seem to have mastered, Biseor.

Zwaeback · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:53 am

What goes around, comes around... ---Add a twist to this.

To humanize your story, better get your point across and to be more interesting add dichotomy. People can act both good and bad. An idea --- have the story be more intelligent and revealing than the audience. Have the audience come away with something that they haven't thought about before.

Phil

Biseor · member Member # Joined: 10 Nov 2001 Posts: 62 Location: US

Snarf:

It's to bad for you that your argument doesn't hold true.

Yes, i use alot of names, but only to describe what people really are.

[ February 18, 2002: Message edited by: Biseor ]

LuxoNick · junior member Member # Joined: 11 Jan 2002 Posts: 4

wow...this is bringing me out of retirement. I haven't posted in a while. If this guy keeps it up he might give Stneil777 a run for his money.

I am not quite sure what this guy is trying to say. Whatever it is....it is alittle confused. In one sentence he says people should be allowed to take whatever drugs they like. In another he says kill all the digenerates drugies. I am pretty sure this is some kid who just hasn't been able to really get all his thoughts organized yet. Give him a few years and he might have some intelligent stuff to say. Right now his cartoons and his words are so twisted and narled that it just makes for an easy flame target.

My only advice to you on your flash movie is to try and give some motivation to your main character. He seems as confused about life as you do. Why does he hate drugies? Is he a rogue psycho cop whose family was killed by drugies? it would be more interesting if the story was more 3 dimensional.

NickMarksdotcom

aColdOldKodiak · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 5:19 pm

Biseor you seem to be a genuinely bad person, whatever your political viewpoints may be.
I hope you'll find some equilibrium in your life.

Biseor · member Member # Joined: 10 Nov 2001 Posts: 62 Location: US

In one sentence he says people should be allowed to take whatever drugs they like. In another he says kill all the digenerates drugies.

Here is the logic behind it.

There are degenerates.

Degenerates like to mouth fuck and take explicit drugs to help them escape from their pathetic reality.

Let them use their drugs legally, more OD's and death for degenerates.

By legalizing drugs, degenerates die. Good thing.

The cartoon was about me speeding up this process.

goatlord · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 7:20 pm

I think this whole thing is great, people are really getting heated up showing which side they are on. It seems interesting to me that supposed open minded, anti-right wing, etc... people would be so quick to show their true FACIST colors by coming down so hard on someone that holds an opposing view. Grow up and laugh at it for what it is, funny. It is no worse than South Park.

Vesuvius · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 7:29 pm

no, I never said YOU CAN'T THINK THAT or YOU CAN'T SHARE THAT.
I said it makes no sense and is cruel and senseless. that's not facist you dumbfuck.

elam · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 8:01 pm

Biseor, I don't know if you know this, but your GAY!!

Anyone who has that many swinging dicks and hateful, ignorant messages in their creations is a poster-child for repressed homosexuality.

Grease your butthole, do some drugs and be free, man.

And, here's a list of degenerate druggies, off the top of my head:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Ben Franklin
Bob Marley
Carl Sagan
Marcus Aurelius
William S. Burroughs
Lewis Carrol
Salivor Dali
Charles Dickens
Newt Ginrich
Ulysses S. Grant
Jimi Hendrix
Albert Hoffman
Billie Holliday
Aldous Huxley
Steve Jobs
Joseph McCarthy
Pablo Picasso
Edgar Allen Poe
Richard Pryor
Clarence Thomas
Jesse Ventura

Ghandaiah · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 8:22 pm

I find this amusing.

I'm not going to pick sides, because it will only lead to further flamage. Such things are inevitable when it comes to political debates.

But I will say the following:

1) Biseor and all his supporters - You can't expect to make a series of movies that are largely insulting to a particularly massive group of people because of their beliefs and NOT get flamed, big-time.

2) All those flaming and insulting Biseor in response to his movies: Perhaps Biseor is not the only one that needs to "grow up." While his... rather expressive... movies may be extremely insulting to you, responding with a series of profanities and similar insults doesn't make you, in any way, better than anyone else.

Not that either of those things will put an end to this flame war, but oh well... Why can't people just calm down and recognize that not everyone shares their beliefs without being an idiot about it... and that goes to BOTH parties here...

Bump · member Member # Joined: 15 Feb 2002 Posts: 78

quote:
Originally posted by snarf:
Half of these arguments don't make any sense. Biseor and Anarchist are just sticking political distinctions within ordinary sentences in a desperate attempt to seem intelligent.

For example, take the sentence:

I desperately need to take a piss.

Now, let's Biseor-ize it:

I desperately need to take a communist piss, Hitlerite!

Transparency is an art you seem to have mastered, Biseor.

Hahaha I love this guy!

Bump · member Member # Joined: 15 Feb 2002 Posts: 78

elam Picasso used drugs ? what kind ? oh and Dali?? (just curious)

You forgot Freud (LCD)

Biseor · member Member # Joined: 10 Nov 2001 Posts: 62 Location: US

Anyone who has that many swinging dicks and hateful, ignorant messages in their creations is a poster-child for repressed homosexuality.

That's like saying because I hate liberals, that I am actually a repressed liberal.

All the dick and homo stuff was for humor value. That's about it. I'll let your words words stand on their own idiocy now.

no, I never said YOU CAN'T THINK THAT or YOU CAN'T SHARE THAT.
I said it makes no sense and is cruel and senseless. that's not facist you dumbfuck.
Yeah, you said something along the lines of "HEY YOU NAZI SKINHEAD REPUBLICAN EVIL SKINHEAD MAN! YOUR IDEALS ARE INVALID BECAUSE THEY DONT FIT TO ME AND MY CONFORMIST VALUES!THEREFORE YOU ARE CRUEL AND YOU NEVER MAKE ANY SENSE! YOU SHOULD DIE! WE SHOULD PUT YOU TO DEATH FOR HAVING DIFFERENT IDEALS THAN ME!" Well, sieg hiel mein furer!

The_Anarchist · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:26 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Ghandaiah:
I find this amusing.

I'm not going to pick sides, because it will only lead to further flamage. Such things are inevitable when it comes to political debates.

But I will say the following:

1) Biseor and all his supporters - You can't expect to make a series of movies that are largely insulting to a particularly massive group of people because of their beliefs and NOT get flamed, big-time.

2) All those flaming and insulting Biseor in response to his movies: Perhaps Biseor is not the only one that needs to "grow up." While his... rather expressive... movies may be extremely insulting to you, responding with a series of profanities and similar insults doesn't make you, in any way, better than anyone else.

Not that either of those things will put an end to this flame war, but oh well... Why can't people just calm down and recognize that not everyone shares their beliefs without being an idiot about it... and that goes to BOTH parties here...

Hell, we don't care about flame wars. Come over to the biseor.com fourms it's one big flame war.

Ghandaiah · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:29 pm

Okay. But that doesn't change the fact that this is pointless.

Oh, wait, I'm forgetting - Humans enjoy petty bickering and pointless debates... It's in their blood... Why else would this shit go on if we didn't like it...

Dan Webb · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2002 12:12 am

aw well, there are more liberals/democrats in the world then right-wing fascist Republicans.... majority wins...

Anyways, considering this is an art board, uh...better animation this time around Biseor, annnddd i don't like Ravers either, but...they exist, so let them be (much like your self)

:P

Biseor · member Member # Joined: 10 Nov 2001 Posts: 62 Location: US

aw well, there are more liberals/democrats in the world then right-wing fascist Republicans.... majority wins...

You may be right. I mean, it is in the most basic and uneducated instinct of man to destroy himself, or lean towards what sounds to be the easier route. That might be why there are so many liberals.

Thanks for the crit.

klaivu · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2002 4:41 am

I suppose biseor must enjoy flame wars - every single one of his posts ends up in one.

Biseors hatred for degenerate liberals has almost a religious nature : The label 'LIBERAL' weighs so much in his mind, that in the end it's all he can see. A few small ideas in the back of his head to derive the whole world from, and nothing to back them. Just the black and white of left being the bad and right being the good.

He just goes along the way of deriving new rules and ideas under the fundamentals taught to him .. what the things he thinks he is against actually mean is not important to him. ( socialist hitlerites .. )

His thoughts on aids made me physically ill. Aids is a disease - it's not a 'degenerate cleansing device', like he put it. Having sex, using intervenous drugs or in any way getting in contact with a disease does not take away your human value. It's almost a medieval idea : the ill getting ill because they did something to offend god or common morals. Personally, I think posting those 'educational flash movies' was reason enough for a ban .. Where is Dhabih when you need him ?

Think whatever you like, rub the bible vigorously between your legs for all i care.
Just don't come here to spread your hate propaganda.

ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

I shall review the offending article later today and write my thesis for presentation tommorow...

yeah.

ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

klaivu:

quote

Quote:

Personally, I think posting those 'educational flash movies' was reason enough for a ban ..

Freedom of speech for some, but not for others? I haven't had an opportunity to check whether this stuff is homophobic, racist, bigoted etc. but I think people take this too seriously.

The_Anarchist · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2002 5:49 am

quote:
Originally posted by ceenda:
klaivu:

Freedom of speech for some, but not for others? I haven't had an opportunity to check whether this stuff is homophobic, racist, bigoted etc. but I think people take this too seriously.

Trust me you're gonna think it's homophobic, racist, and bigoted. You're probabily not going to stop to think hey this is this guy's opinion. Personally these liberal posts and the excessive use of swear words offends me but you don't hear me screaming BAN! BAN!

goatlord · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2002 6:46 am

Once again, watch South Park on COMEDY CENTRAL. More offensive (if you are offended)than all his cartoons combined. But funny nonetheless. Lets all grow up and give the guy a break.
Vesuvius- You are flaming me for mis quoteing you, then you misunderstand what I am typing. How many different ways does it need to be said? RELAX!