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Ralph Manis
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2002 11:13 am     Reply with quote
Portrait tutorial using Poser, Bryce & Photoshop

"Angie Tutorial"



"Angie" 800x600

A very descriptive tutorial that guides you through creating your character in Poser, making a UV map, importing into Bryce, using photos, creating and adding textures and fine details in Photoshop. For beginners to advanced users.

"Angie Tutorial"

[ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: Ralph Manis ]
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Awetopsy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2002 11:24 am     Reply with quote
the face is quite good... I think the hair looks blurred and unfocused... dont get me wrong, I really do like the pic...
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NextGen
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2002 3:11 pm     Reply with quote
yeah.. looks good.. but isn't that a huge waste of time going threw poser and everything when you have to paint the hair anyway? why not just paint the face to while your at it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2002 7:29 pm     Reply with quote
nice work, but poser and bryce =blah. very unprofessional programs to use. But, if it was done for fun, well, good job.
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eC
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2002 3:33 pm     Reply with quote
I don't know that I would say that Bryce and Poser are that unprofessional. I know of at least two extremely well-published fantasy/sci-fi cover artists who use it:

Fred Gambino: (Bryce)Gambino's homepage

Patrick Turner: (Bryce and Poser)studio homepage

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Indian_Prophet
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2002 3:58 pm     Reply with quote
Yea, I like those two programs...a friend of mine is going to a animation school and knows many who use those two programs on a professional level....it just depends Zephyros, I once read a tutorial of a guy who created complexed 3d models in bryce using the terrain editor and then textured them. Anyways I am off to read these tuts and browse this Ralph's site.

Peace
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2002 4:28 pm     Reply with quote
Poser professional or not? This is like the same old question regarding using reference and "what is cheating" and what is not.

I've did some studying of how the old masters, current master artist, and good commercial artist work. And my results are interesting but not surprising.

First, for comercial art there is no such thing as cheating so long as you don't infringe on someones copyright.

Now, for good fantasy/fine art the rules are pretty much the same. However, I think there is one other clause that should be added -- any method is ok so long as you can get the image that you want. A fantasy artist must not sacrafice his vision because he has to rely on techinical devices or because he does not rely on them.

So use whatever means are available but remember that your skill level will still determine what you can make.
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Pat
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2002 4:49 pm     Reply with quote
The genius of good work is not in the tool, it's in the tool user.

The problem with tools like Poser and Bryce is that a lot of thinking is done for the artist, and the programs generate generic --if not easily identifiable-- results.

That's not to say either can't be used to make incredible work, but lazy artists don't stray too far from from the presets. For instance, on Patrick Turner's site you can see some generic Bryce 3D type clouds. Ho hum... another random white fractal pattern mapped onto a plane. Those don't even look like clouds to me. In any event, lazy artists don't make good professional artists.

-Pat

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2002 5:05 pm     Reply with quote
I freaking LOVE her hair -- it's by far the best part of the image. I hate the smooth, absolutely pantene-pro-V flawless, not-enough-detail shit-hair that most people draw (or should I say, "pathetically smear around into organized contrast-stripes")(or should I say "fuck up").

Good deal.
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