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Freddio
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 8:37 am     Reply with quote
hmm this sux for the amount of time i spent on it..


Its not finished but IM so bored with it so I decided to post it.

I used reference for the face, basically it was an anatomy exercise..
anyway comments and crits would be apreciated..

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 8:43 am     Reply with quote
lol, very nice! But in my opion, his post is kinda funny, a homoerotic kind of way....which i like
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 11:15 am     Reply with quote
...and for gay Mr December in the 2002 gay calender of the year....CONAN!!!!

LOL...

great pose!!! *s*

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 11:22 am     Reply with quote
Hmm, I'm not sure it was meant to be humorous guys. Anyone who puts a decent amount of work into something is surely not meant to be laughed at.

Freddio, it's a nice pic, and a very good improvement. I would suggest looking up some reference for some parts of the anatomy, like his pects, shoulder areas, etc. The shading is also too dark on his torso, which doesn't reflect the lighting condition of your scene. Overall, a little lithing inconsistancy, where the face is side lit, the body drastically top-lit. What you could do is take a break from it, and come back to it in a few days to recuperate some of that energy.

Good work!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 11:25 am     Reply with quote
He basically looks bloated...Nice background though....And the face is excellent!!!
Good point about taking a couple of days off it.
Notice your amount of darkness between the breasts (what are the called????), you lack that in all other areas of the body.

Sukhoi

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 11:47 am     Reply with quote
ooh, saucy. he looks like he's posing. we need a song here. "mr. exhibitionist man"
and I'm not insulting your work, but it's so rare that people put brilliant comedic aspects in. congratulations
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 3:46 pm     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sukhoi:
Notice your amount of darkness between the breasts (what are the called????),




'Breast' singular wouldn't be technically inaccurate for that area. But when discussing manly things anatomical terms are preferred. Those would be the Pectoral Muscles (often refered to as 'pecs' or 'pects')

Background is great Fredd. The figure is kinda quickly layed out, but I suspect you're aware of this. Some more precise shading is really the bulk of it. I'll leave comments on that to the experts. The grip on that sword is a bit peculiar too. Grab a broom and try it. Perhaps you did. Still it looks a lil' odd to me, that's all.
Good luck
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 5:49 pm     Reply with quote
Wow, the face looks REALLY good! The background is neat too

I think the only thing that throws the image off a bit is the pose. If it were me, I would put both of his hands on the sword rather than having one behind his head. And rather than having his toe pointed out to the side, bend his knee and place it flat on the ground.

Looking good though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2002 6:26 pm     Reply with quote
thanks guys for all the helpful comments..


anyone feel free to paint over..
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2002 12:13 am     Reply with quote
Mountains look good, l'd add some
clouds, and make the character blend more
with the background so it doesn't look
like a cut and paste job.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2002 6:43 am     Reply with quote
face and mountains look good;-) The rest needs some work. BTw...he looks kinda gay..lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2002 6:49 am     Reply with quote
I wouldnt know personally. but maby you could ask him about his sexuality yourself.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2002 8:10 am     Reply with quote
Hey freddio,
I like the colors and background.
For conan himself, there's three things I'd like to point out, if you don't mind
First of, insetad of cleaning and smudging ares, pay more attention to how you want things to look. Like, f.ex his hand and his legs, you've made it rough, instead of trying hard to find how they should look, don't run away from these parts, that's when you learn how to define things.
ABout the anatomy, you've soften big areas out. pay more attention to how the shapes are and shade them according to that. like on the stomach area, if you used some more reference and tried to shape the muscles more precise, it would look better.
but, before all of this, I think you should try to plan out the pose more before you start. Try to give yourself a reason why he should stand like he does, like is it before a fight (?) is he walking over the landscape, or whatever. People say he looks gay, I can understand that that type of feedback can sound very little constructive, but the main reason for this probably, is that he he standing and posing for no reason, like if there would be a muscle contest up in the mountains....do you understand what I mean ?
I didn't have time to brush over, but, I made a quick sketch to suggest a maybe more interessting pose. It's clich�, but that's what conan is, right? but then it can look like f.ex he's fighting something which is in front of the camera. You should maybe try to focus on doing many posing sketches, try to plan out with simple strokes different ideas that could work.

hope this helps, keep ut the good work
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2002 10:17 am     Reply with quote
hrm. I think I noticed something else that noone has touched on. What is his left hand doing? (our right.) If it's going behind it's back, there should be some arm showing above his right shoulder. If he's scratching his back, the elbow should be at a smaller angle making the forearm go down more. kudos on the face and helmet though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:41 am     Reply with quote
I agree that the anatomy is off and it is an akward position for a warrior.....
But, some of you are down right mean. This is a place to learn...and crits are
good.... But constructive critisism is needed here. Not insults.
Good try Freddio. You just have to study anatomy a little more.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 6:49 am     Reply with quote
Thanks all for the constructive crits..
The reason why the hand is behind the head is that he is going to carry another sword..
Joachim: Thanks

Bigfoot: Yes my anotomy sux.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 6:52 am     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Freddio:



Its not finished



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2002 4:48 pm     Reply with quote
really good work. You have talent. I love the mountains. You have drawn conan well. His face is awesome. However I think the pose he is in is a little inapropriate. Also - when a body builders arm is raised the pectoral takes on a more flattened and triangular shape. The current shape of the left pec is in the arm down position. Have a look at a "muscle and fitness magazine".

One last thought - perhaps you should think about atmosphere. With Conan I feel the atmosphere should be more dark and brooding. He is a formidable character and should be shown as such. I hope that helps you in some way. Well done.
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