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Topic : "three gothbabes..3?..yep a painter one aswell" |
vebjorn member
Member # Joined: 10 Mar 2000 Posts: 317 Location: oslo
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 5:59 am |
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ok, i think the realistic one is best, perhaps not the moodiest etc..feel free to tell my if you don`t agree and why;-)
I`m sending all 3 to the conan publisher after the holidays,giving her a hard choice...
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Enayla member
Member # Joined: 26 Nov 2000 Posts: 1217 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:22 am |
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Oh yes, I like the top one the most. It's gorgeous. The others are great, too, but the first one gets to me more.
Very beautiful.  |
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SporQ member
Member # Joined: 22 Sep 2000 Posts: 639 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:25 am |
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the first is definately the prettiest, but i like the third best. i love the texture and colors. im betting the publisher will pick the first tho |
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wigin member
Member # Joined: 23 Sep 2000 Posts: 408 Location: Ottawa Ontario
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:38 am |
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awesome stuff... i like the second one.. Its like a blend of the first one and second one together =)... My only comment is on the pose... Why are all three pics in the same pose?? was it pre determined?? If not why didnt you play around or change the pose ? or maybe you did that before hand and needed to only pick colour???? anywho good work... |
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Anthony member
Member # Joined: 13 Apr 2000 Posts: 1577 Location: Winter Park, FLA
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:46 am |
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First, definately. She's the most life like. |
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fellipe junior member
Member # Joined: 14 Nov 2001 Posts: 43
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:53 am |
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the first one with the second enviroment |
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dave_baer junior member
Member # Joined: 17 Dec 2000 Posts: 35 Location: Miami, Florida, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 1:31 pm |
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Very nice but ummm... Are there any other poses? Remarkable how you got almost the exact same poses in all three pics (first one just flipped opposite). Is that pose just more comfortable for you? Just curious. But yeah, very nice. first one is very pretty. She got a sister?  |
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vebjorn member
Member # Joined: 10 Mar 2000 Posts: 317 Location: oslo
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 2:14 pm |
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ho hum..all based on the same basic sketch..and pose,I never kinda got the finish the way I wanted..thats why they are almost all alike... |
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DarkStalker1 member
Member # Joined: 14 May 2001 Posts: 94 Location: Westlake,La.
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:17 pm |
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The first is the best ,but the hands suck .
The lighting on the bottom two is not convensining !  |
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MarshallX member
Member # Joined: 11 Dec 2001 Posts: 156 Location: Essex, ON
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 9:42 pm |
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Why didnt you post these pictures in the same post of the previous picture of the top girl?
I see you fixed all of the errors and i must say she looks simply stuning! |
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Soulfuct member
Member # Joined: 20 Nov 2001 Posts: 120 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 11:13 pm |
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the top one seems the cleanest and most stylish.All 3 are great however, do more goth babes! :P |
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Light member
Member # Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 528 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 5:01 pm |
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first and second are best.. the bottom one is still rough.. |
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egerie member
Member # Joined: 30 Jul 2000 Posts: 693 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 12:20 am |
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Actually I find it great to see the evolution of that peice.. weeh !
I like the first one best but the third one is nice as well.. I guess we've grown fond of the style of the stuff you've been posting  |
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bigfoot member
Member # Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 63 Location: Boston,USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 3:19 am |
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vebjorn,
I have seen a lot of your work over the years,
and you are soooo talented....but,you need to work on a woman anatomy a little more. I don't
know why so many people are telling you they are perfect, they are not...but they could be!
Your a fantastic artist.But, I promise, if you send these into a publisher,(as they are now), they will be rejected or will never see a "cover".
Don't do it! you will tarnish any relationship
with the publisher! And there is no need to
do that, because you are so talented.
The first illustration is better than the first ones you posted, but her eye's looks like they are "pulled" and her "crotch is too
low.And her left hand is badly out of porportion. The second woman, is badly out of
porportion (her boobs, hand and crotch) and
her face is "messy". The third woman "dido".
Why are you in such a hurry to send these to
a publisher? They are not good. And Your work
in the past has been fantastic!
You are too talented to not know that these
illustrations are not up to your normal great
work. You are the captain of your ship and
will do what you want, but, why post if you won't listen to fair and honest crits? |
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Highfive member
Member # Joined: 08 Oct 2001 Posts: 640 Location: Brisbane, AU
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 5:56 pm |
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Agree thoroughly with bigfoot as your artwork is good but clearly not perfect yet.
I choose the first one because of the realism, the stronger lighting, the more accurate anatomy and her gorgeous jaw-line. |
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vebjorn member
Member # Joined: 10 Mar 2000 Posts: 317 Location: oslo
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2002 10:36 am |
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I had an artblock. I think they all suck. Nope, I do not care if they are perfect to life. The total image must work in order to get it sold. I doubt any of these will make it because they are all lacking the "kick" in "kickass".
I am on fairly friendly grounds when it comes to the publisher in question. I don`t care what I show her, because she`s seen it all, far worse than this. There`s no problem getting your artwork printed, you just need a foot inside the door, and thats damn hard work. The question is to sell even inferior stuff, since it might tarnish your rep....hohum.
[ January 02, 2002: Message edited by: vebjorn ] |
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Benjamin junior member
Member # Joined: 01 Jan 2002 Posts: 14 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2002 10:52 am |
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Hmm. I really hope the overly negative roasting from bigfoot didn't influence your decision too much. I tend to disagree with bigfoot's attitude toward the pieces you had displayed here.
I would never be so stupid as to say they were perfect, as even the best piece has room for improvement.
However, saying they are 'not good' and not of a professional standard is simply incorrect. There are many successful professionals who cannot produce this level of quality.
Perhaps you weren't happy with them or didn't feel they would do you justice in a professional light, and that is your choice to make, but do not underrate those pieces, please. I'm sure an artist of your experience knows not all criticism is necessarily constructive.
Take heart, I don't think this was a failure, quite the opposite. Oh, and I've looked in detail at every bit of art on your site, noted the progression of your style and methods, so I'm not making these comments blind. The pieces you had here could have sat next to your best work comfortably. I love seeing your own unique style grow, this is just another step in it's development.
-Ben |
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Tinusch member
Member # Joined: 25 Dec 1999 Posts: 2757 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2002 12:12 am |
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I kind of agree with Bigfoot. These are (or were) definitely not bad at all. They're much better than anything I could ever do. But they seem to lack the polish and flair of your usual work. They just seemed a little wonkier and muddier, lacking the movement and life of what I've seen you do before. Maybe it was the colors, maybe it was just a tough pose, I don't know, but I do think these could be a little looser and rougher, just to give them a little more life. |
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vebjorn member
Member # Joined: 10 Mar 2000 Posts: 317 Location: oslo
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2002 7:59 am |
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they lacked planning of the entire picture;-) |
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Frost member
Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2000 Posts: 2662 Location: Montr�al, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2002 8:14 am |
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Veb: welcome to the club of non-planning loser artists (the NPLA for short). =] |
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