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Probus · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2001 1:16 pm

hey dude, hope i�m not offending you but i would�ve sworn that was max payne

wus · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2001 1:57 pm

Probus: "Offending"? Max Payne is the coolest dude around.

[ December 06, 2001: Message edited by: wus ]

Probus · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2001 2:09 pm

eh that�s right! but in plastic he looks disturbing!

Magic Zero · junior member Member # Joined: 01 Dec 2001 Posts: 43

tried to draw me, but it doesn't look like me at all, well its a good pic anyways:
Me....ummmm..sorta

SameOldShit · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2001 7:22 pm

who the heck is Max Payne?

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

Here is Max in game http://maxpayne.godgames.com/main.html
and here is he in real life bearing a name of Sami Jarvi http://insanepayne.gamereactor.net/theteam-pic.htm

wus · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2001 12:06 am

OKay - the plastic is a bit scary, but Probus, you are kinda right - I think the raised eyebrow is dead-on.

But, in my opinion the post of Vampyroteuthis infernalis' self-portait is way scarier. That's a nasty looking foot or an octopus - the jury's still out over here.

sandhu · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2001 3:29 am

wow outstanding + fun

works, people!
make me want to try it myself.
see you in the next 30 mnt or so..!

(now where the heck did i put that damn mirror..)

sandhu · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2001 4:12 am

around 30 mnt of breaking my neck in front of the mirror

oo scary...

*upon seeing the result*
i wonder why my gf hasn't left me yet..

Conor O Kane · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 4:30 pm

Flexible Elf · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 4:47 pm

A quickie of a robed me.

-Flexible Elf

Conor O Kane · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 5:03 pm

Flexy elf - nice to see I'm not the only one who got dressed up for the quickie

Cool painting, ya look like a Jedi.

catnip · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 8:03 am

When I first found this URL, I thought I found
something special. Since I have learned how
to use every painting software....it is sadly
obvious to me that at least 70% of you simply
scan in an image and "color by number" and
say it is your creation.
Take a drawing and painting class.
Don't think for one second that anyone will
make it in this competetive buis. by scanning
photo's.

m703-324 · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 8:38 am

hey catnip... you know that if you can use program really well and you\ve got experience with you wacom or mouse... then it's not hard to draw in photoshop or painter as well or even better as on canvas or paper.. it's just another medium
i rarely scan anything and if i do then only sketch draw by me... mostly i start drawing in photoshop without even looking at any reference.

Conor O Kane · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 8:56 am

That's an interesting view catnip.
Here's the ref photo I used for my sketch. If you think I traced it perhaps you'd like to overlay the two in photoshop and convince everyone. I think using reference photos is the best way to work, and that many professional artists do that.

Perhaps however you have a better way. Why don't you show us your own self portrait. I couldn't help notice that you have no webpage listed in your profile where you show your own art, and that as far as I can see, you've never EVER posted any art on this forum - you only comment on other people's art. I'd like for you to show me how to draw a good self portrait, without photo reference, rather than telling me. If you can. Can you even draw?

Flexible Elf · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 9:22 am

Conor - Hehehe, I don't know if I dressed up as spiffy as you. I just threw a blue bath towel over my head

Catnip - that's a broad generalization. If you've learned 'every painting software' as much as you've claimed, you'd realize like m-703 said that you can closely mimic media of any kind. With that said: photo reference, whether used in photoshop, oil paints or pencil drawings makes it very easy to attain a realistic quality. I think I use photo ref for maybe 5% of my work. Even being part of your 30% demographic of 'non-color-by-number' artists I still say nothing chaps an artist's butt more than being called a hack when you're not. I'm sorry you don't think this place is something special.. there's a lot of great artists who contribute here, and where we will always value your opinion, not everyone values demeaning assumptions. Surf a few websites, see other works before you make such a bold statement that most everyone (70%) on here is cheating.

You are right about one thing though...
>>> Don't think for one second that anyone will make it in this competetive buis. by scanning photo's.<<<

Not that I feel the need to prove myself, but as you can see I made quite a few overall changes from ref to sketch like lighting and angle, etc.

-Flexible Elf

I'm not trying to start a flame war. Suffice to say, like I said before, I'm sorry you feel that way about sijun now, and I hope there's some way we can change your mind. I guess there's always paintch@t, where cheating is basically an impossibility.

[ December 09, 2001: Message edited by: Flexible Elf ]

SameOldShit · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 10:43 am

Catnip actions speal louder than words. Where's your masterpiece?