Sijun Forums :: View topic - I am addicted to Orcs! This time in 3D. ;)

NukleoN · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:24 pm

This started life as a box and took about 2 days..I am now adding gums\teeth and finalizing it so I can move on to the body.

smalls · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:48 pm

that is way cool... how in dah... did you do that? thats really good man.

what program do you use?

smalls

Binke · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 5:17 pm

cool!

Akolyte · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 6:11 pm

I also started my life as a box, but alas, I do not look so cool. That's some |337 $h\7 if I may say so myself. Can't wait to see it textured.

NukleoN · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 8:25 pm

Thanks for the comments!

I am using MAX 4 with Sub Division modeling, and this will be textured. Actually, I am doing a whole Orc body with armor and all that, and plan to animate it as well. A few morf targets are planned as well.

dr . bang · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 11:29 pm

Thats very good dude!!! One question though, whats Sub Division modeling? is it spline modelling for box modelling?

MeatyCheesyBoy · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 12:17 am

dr. bang, Subdivision modelling is the same as box modelling. They are just different terms used by different people but they all refer to basically the same thing. You make a low resolution control mesh then apply a subdivision algorithm (usually the Catmull-Clark (but some programs have others) algorithm (or some variation of it)), and a higher detailed, smoother version is the result.

Other names which the method goes by are Subdivision Surfaces (Lightwave, XSI and Maya call it this), Meshsmooth (3d Studio MAX calls it this), MetaNurbs (Old versions of LW called it this), HyperNurbs (Cinema 4DXL calls it this), MetaForm (Old versions of Lightwave called it this) and UberNurbs (Electric Image Universe calls it this).

dr . bang · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 12:24 am

I love you ! Thanks so much for clearing that up, i got it now.

p.s: i voted you 5 stars

Svanur · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 1:15 am

Is this splines or box with meshsmooth?

NukleoN · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 1:30 am

Meaty Cheese you explained it perfectly.

This started life as a box in MAX with MeshSmooth applied, and lots of cutting, cleaning, shaping, etc.

I updated the pic with gums, teeth and a lightsource with shadows.

Jock McxSporran · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 2:07 am

Nice model.

The only thing which bothers me is that it looks like you have tried for a fairly anatomical approach to the structure of the head, yet the bulges and muscle definitions aren't all that convincing as they aren't in the correct places. I know an Orc is a fantasy creature, but as you've chosen to follow quite a human (or rather ape) interpretation of the subject matter I think this is a valid critisism. A lot of the creases and details are untidy too, and some of it looks almost accidental.

The basic form of the head is superb though, and it has a lot of character.

[ June 15, 2001: Message edited by: Jock McxSporran ]

MunkY c mUnkY Du · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 2:18 am

having tried to model in max myself i can honestly say nice one.... it looks fab ... only one thing, from the front, from about the nose up there "SEEMS" to be a line (probably where the both halves met)just thought id say but i cant model so pay no attention

NukleoN · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 3:11 am

Jock: Thanks for the comments....I have taken some liberties with this guy since he's an orc, and I tried to make it visually interesting as much as anything else. Yep, he is definitely inspired somewhat by gorillas, even tho he is an Orc.

Munky: There is most definitely a seam, that is because I am modeling only half the head right now, the other half is an instance and there is a tiny gap between the two. Eventually I will weld the two halves together and make it asymmetrical, and then add touches like warts or whatever before texturing. Thanks for the comment!

[ June 15, 2001: Message edited by: NukleoN ]

Probotech · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 3:44 am

As always Nukelon's work never seases to amaze me. Very nice indeed! Will be very cool with a fully modelled body with colthes & armor to go with this head as you said. I'm eager to see the textured face!

I say we nuke em', nuke em all!

avaj · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 4:07 am

Great work! Looking forward to the finished version. But pretty please, DONT make him green!

Bg · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 4:27 am

That is AWESOME!!!

Vgta · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 5:49 am

Man, excellent looking mesh so far.
Any chance I can see a wire frame render of it?
Thanks.
Can't wait to see it textured.
BTW I am still trying to learn Painter

melted petal · member Member # Joined: 11 Dec 2000 Posts: 82

all i have to say is...

"zug zug"

NukleoN · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2001 7:17 pm

Halogenic: Hey thanks! Yep I will posting as I make significant progress.

Avaj: Thanks for the comments...he probably will have to be green, since that is part of being an Orc, but he won't be *only* green but a blend of different colors with green as the overall effect.

BG: Thanks man, your painting is looking really good too.

Vgta: Hey there, it was fun trying out Net Painter...thanks for the comments...yeah learn Painter it rocks!

Melted Petal: Zug ZUg! Hehe yeah me too..or how bout a pig to eat? I'm going for that Warcraft look as well.

Stylized Orc..trying to make it look like my Orc drawings.

Take care,

avaj · Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2001 2:50 am

In my world orchs are not green

I think that in Tolkiens books they are more like black, brown, gray .. and thats my own image of them. But I guess I am pretty alone thinking that, hehe.

Keep up the good work.

Gambit · Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2001 9:23 am

That is some great work!

Please keep on posting the progress shots. Is this for your personal portfolio?

He really has some wonderful features...

Mindsiphon · Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2001 9:31 am

Now thats an orc!
Nice work!

NukleoN · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2001 4:20 am

Avaj: I hear ya, but I am also caught up in the green orc thing from other influences.

Gambit: Hey thanks, yeah this is for my reel\portfolio...I am dong a body for him and plan to texture\animate him.

Raist: Thanks Raist! There will be more pics when I finish the body\clothing.