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Pat member
Member # Joined: 06 Feb 2001 Posts: 947 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2001 11:22 pm |
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This is one of those pieces that started off great as a sketch. When it was rough there was a lot a vitality, so I thought "What they hey, I'll paint it up!" Lo and behold, the lack of preparation really caused problems later on. I tried and tried to tweak it but was never able to regain the "umph" of the original. So, in a cynical effort to salvage it I plastered a lot of details on it to distract the viewer, hence the tattoo.
I think I've stared at it for too long, so I'm putting it up for now. I might come back to it when my eyes are fresh. I know the left arm is weird looking. Any other suggestions or comments?
-Pat
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Skeezer member
Member # Joined: 12 Oct 2000 Posts: 348 Location: Lake Stevens, Wa, USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2001 11:42 pm |
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whoa, nice rendering.
I really like the blood
I can see how the sketch would have held a little more umph, but I think its a nice piece.
Her right leg is the one she's balancing her weight on, so I think her right buttock should be flexed, the highlight shouldn't be so round, and maybe a little shadow to indicate the muscle indentation.
I'm not sure, well yes I am...at an angle that low, I think you would have a little bit of the pubic bulge showing....heh..hmm...yeah...anyway
all around great job on the detail.
Maybe if you showed her head maybe looking down and to the right, and also the whole axe blade.
-Skeez |
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galen member
Member # Joined: 13 Nov 2000 Posts: 172 Location: a computer.
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burn0ut member
Member # Joined: 18 Apr 2000 Posts: 1645 Location: california
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 12:07 am |
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wow thats just awesome  |
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CrakBEENie member
Member # Joined: 08 Feb 2001 Posts: 60 Location: washington
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 12:42 am |
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dear god...bitch and moan bitch and moan...top notch work...stop complaining |
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CrakBEENie member
Member # Joined: 08 Feb 2001 Posts: 60 Location: washington
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 12:47 am |
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oh yeah....sweet ass |
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MunkY c mUnkY Du member
Member # Joined: 03 Feb 2001 Posts: 56 Location: BELFAST
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 2:32 am |
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i know a guy with an ass like that....
great work... |
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travis travis member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2001 Posts: 437 Location: CT, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 7:19 am |
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It's spectacular! Maybe you've got your perfectionist glasses on, but take 'em off for a minute and appreciate your own work. There's still room to work on it more if you feel necessary, you can sharpen the back shadows a little with a couple more strokes, but really, it's quite good |
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Covenant junior member
Member # Joined: 28 Jan 2001 Posts: 17 Location: Columbus, OH, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 2:48 pm |
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That just simply, smokes. Excellent work... I think this needs to be my desktop for a while. I will say that we should see some part of the female anatomy from this angle, but I actually thinkg NOT having it makes the image more powerful. It draws away from the sexuality of the picture and you focus more on the brutality of the piece(blood and weapon). Also, from the amount of blood on her arms I would assume there would be more blood on the axe. UNLESS, she just beat someone up and then grabbed it!
Either way this image is realy powerful, even haunting.
oh Skeezer.... "but I think its a nice piece. "....Riot
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Pat member
Member # Joined: 06 Feb 2001 Posts: 947 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 3:40 pm |
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Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as bitching and moaning --there's a lot about the piece that I'm very happy with. I'm just frustrated with it since I can just *feel* it's not right somewhere but for the life of me I can't put my finger on it.
Skeezer - thanks for the suggestions. It's not quite monochromatic like we were discussing on your latest piece, but it's close. Same thing too... colors choosen to establish mood. I might need to go get a model or something to nail that stance and get the butt right.
galen & CrackBEENie - You're both probably right. I'm pissed though, since I painted OVER the sketch without saving it seperately and I really liked it. Still kicking myself for that.
MunkY c mUnkY Du - Man, I don't know if I should be happy or sad for ya.
travis travis - yeah, the back area is pretty underpainted right now. But I left it kinda simple because there's going to be a logo over that area. When I get some time I want to go in and detail it out some more though, because the piece should be able to stand on it's own.
Covenant - Thanks. I wanted to add a little more blood, but I was afraid it might ruin the balance of "sexy-but-deadly". Think I can get away with more?
I appreciate all the help.
-Pat |
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proximo member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2000 Posts: 467
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 3:47 pm |
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Hey man this is a fantastic pic .. I think somthing that might help , and i dont want to sound like a perv but maybe add the vagina in the pic . just the lips or some hair.. i know it might sound bad but it might give the pic the umf your looking for ? just a sug,,
Love the pic .. |
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Zedex junior member
Member # Joined: 10 Feb 2001 Posts: 38 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 5:12 pm |
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Wow, that's sweet! I think the problem you have is the arms, both are too rugged so to speak, they both look a *bit* like a man's arms for some reason, maybe smooth them out so they're more smooth and the light reflects more smoothly rather than in bits as if there were muscles there |
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failsafe member
Member # Joined: 29 Mar 2000 Posts: 63
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 11:33 pm |
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wow great pic. The only thing that my eye is catching is the upper half looking like a mans torso. Sure she looks like she's cutting heads off so should be buff but somehow its reading as a little mannish to mei think its the back and arms, maybe the hips are doing it? I cant quite put an exact on it but anyway its a great pic |
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A member
Member # Joined: 24 Nov 2000 Posts: 126 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2001 5:04 am |
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Hey, great painting!
Seeing this lends a *lot* more weight to your comments about my in-progress image!
About this image, the only thing I would say is the axe could have been planned a bit better. It looks a bit simplistic the way the blade is _exactly_ flat-on to the viewer. Maybe it could be pointing a little bit into the picture, away from the amazon's body. This would give a bit more depth and reality to the image IMHO.
Also, maybe the handle of the axe at the very left hand side of the image should be seen to go into her hand a bit more, rather than just ending at the edge of her palm.
Really though, this image does the trick. You should be proud of it.
Cheers, A. |
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