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As an artist you need to know what you are trying to say. You need to know from what foundation you will build upon. Once you decide on that foundation, Like the big modern BOMBSHELLS of Abstract Expr ...

As an artist you need to know what you are trying to say. You need to know from what foundation you will build upon. Once you decide on that foundation, Like the big modern BOMBSHELLS of Abstract Expr ...

Quiller is a painter who uses Birrens theory. If you just want hard core theory just read Birren, if you want to be a painter, then read both.

Loomis and Bridgman, and Walt Reed. Only the best in the biz!

Hey, Make a stand, and come up with a definition. If you don't you'll never know when you got there.

Color theory books.

Fabir Birren is the formost color authority of the 20th century.

Color Perception in Art
Principles of Color
Creative color

All will get you going with the strongest co ...

I guess, that posting ideas of great artist and hopeing for some debate is fruitless here.

I have a little story and then I'll part from this site.

My mentor was trained by Al Kurzrok, he drew ...

Probably the most disturbing phenomenon in the art of the current century, a result of the dislocation in the dualism of art and science, is the profound pervasive indifference of the whole contempora ...

Jason,

I could not agree with you more. Thank you.

spline,

I feel your missing the point. Why don't you spend the next few years understanding and studying Loomis before you just fly off the handle and denounce his work. How much of Loomis's work ...

I posted a link to a Pyle page in a message above. It's on page 4 of this discussion.

I have stated my opinion about art, which for the most part I seem to be the only one holding this opinion. W ...

I'm not trying to demean art, I am simply trying to state that Art has no utilitarian function, no political, alternative lifestyle, geopolitical, enviromental purpose. and those people who use thier ...

I'm talking about Ideas. you may have graphic subject matter, such as in the film Saving Private Ryan, but it is not celibrating that stuff, it is showing the courage and drive of men in the face of s ...

Would you cover up Guernica?

No. That painting is a great anti war statement.

I want to be clear on this. I agree totaly with space monky, but I am not advocating censorship. I am sick of the ...

Mon,

Van Gogh was saying that he wished he had lerned the fundamentals of color in his youth so he could go further in his painting. Van Gogh started as a painter late in his life, he was training ...

Look, telling the truth about light striking form in space. That is an example.
Telling the truth of motion, of line of shape, of life. Relativisum and psycology are the problem. I'm talking about t ...

Why not let the great artists of the past tell us what the definitions are.

We run around hopeing that the culture will decide for us, when it's our decision.

What does davincie say about it? ...

Is art there to describe abstract things? I don't believe art is there to describe the abstract I believe it it used to help people see the great truths in life. Is it the artists job to show people t ...

for those who know not of Pyle here is a good site.

http://www.bpib.com/pyle.htm

Later

Zwaeback,

well what I mean is this. In doing a value study I would first link all of the darks together as much as possible so as to pick them up in one piece.
In doing so I have created "Linkage ...

tbone28,

Things to think about. I agree you should draw with your elbow or shouldur and not with your wrist, two, Line quality.

All, drawings should be worked up on "thinking paper" (tracing pa ...

HaRdC0rePixxX,

Are you talking about recognition factors, like

the first thing we recognize is geometric shapes, the second is natural shapes, and the third is abstract shapes.

Is that what ...

Tomasis,

you wrote,
wayne johnsson, what do you say about rembrandt and velazquez works? do you can compare both artists?

Valazquez, is probubly one of the best examples of brevity and simplici ...

HaRdC0rePixxX,

You make a good point, but the problem I have found in breaking up values into four, is there is no middle Hat Hanger value. nothing neutral in value.

I do however like breaking ...

Cheaper and mostlikly better than any college is...

Famous Artist School,
Famous Artist Course in Commercial Art, Illustration, and Design.

Founded by :

Albert Dorne, Norman Rockwell, steven ...

Torstein Nordstrand,

Let us discuss how Pyle see's value as four different planes.

1. Light

2. Mid tone that belongs to the light

3. Mid tone that belongs to the dark

4. Dark.

In cr ...

So other than one person, You have not responded to my questions or theorys. You just hack at me. If you went to see Sargent all over the world, then you know about detail. If you don't what do you th ...

One more thing, the painting I did of the girl a few years ago(page two of this discussion) Has that thought in mind. The detail or crispness is in he face. Also the HP Swipe I did will show some of t ...

How about we discuss this with great painters work,

John Sargent is a perfect example of this idea of detail. Listed as one of the many artists Loomis says to study in Creative Illustration. I bel ...

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Zwaeback,

thanks for the support, I dig the bruce wolf site, very great work.
as you can see above Gux had some more to say. I believe this thread to be dead unless something else provokes the ...